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on: March 11, 2010, 07:41:03 pm
I tried using an allen key to remove my bar end weights Trying to change handlebars). The bolt is in pretty tight. The key slipped off once, and I decided not to pursue it further , lest I strip/destroy the bolt to a point that the key begins to spin free.

Any suggestions ?

PS: the bike is becomming a time consuming thing: crooked fender/wheel, and now this .



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Reply #1 on: March 11, 2010, 07:51:16 pm
Try some penetrating oil . A new or differrent Allen wrench, or a wrench you can turn while tapping with a hammer.
Then there is heat, you have to be careful, you could melt something important or catch your pentrating oil on fire, but any or all the above works,
Start with the easiest that will not destroy or strip , then up the ante  as need ,
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Reply #2 on: March 11, 2010, 07:54:09 pm
  Use asocket that has the allen wrench built in.  Get more torque that way.  Maybe the threads are left handed? 
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Reply #3 on: March 11, 2010, 08:00:08 pm
Try some penetrating oil . A new or differrent Allen wrench, or a wrench you can turn while tapping with a hammer.
Then there is heat, you have to be careful, you could melt something important or catch your pentrating oil on fire, but any or all the above works,
Start with the easiest that will not destroy or strip , then up the ante  as need ,
happy hunting.

Can you tell me more about the penetrating oil.


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Reply #4 on: March 11, 2010, 08:12:38 pm
Penetrating oil: Back in the day ,old timers used kerosene to loosen frozen fasteners.

Any light oil is better then nothing. WD-40 can be used as well as oil sold as "pentrating oil".
The way it works ( or doesn't work ,Ha) is to spay it on the frozen bolt, let sit , tap it lightly so vibration will allow some oil on a thread or two of the trouble bolt. I have heard of soaking over night.
 Heat can draw in some oil to break "rust" , but again be careful with a torch, sometimes more damage  occurs with out of controll heat.
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Reply #5 on: March 11, 2010, 08:52:55 pm
Can you tell me more about the penetrating oil.

PB blaster works well....
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Reply #6 on: March 11, 2010, 10:19:03 pm
The best penetrating oil, old fart style;  1 part ATF, 1 part acetone.   
Don't get it on paint, though.  Brush some on and wait a while.  It will astound you.

Might help to get you allen wrench in position, put a piece of pipe over the wrench, and whack the pipe with a 2x4.  Lay a blanket over your bike to protect it when the pipe and allen wrench go flying.   :D
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Reply #7 on: March 12, 2010, 12:06:16 am
PB blaster works well....

 I will second that.
 PB Blaster is one of my trade secrets.
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Reply #8 on: March 12, 2010, 12:41:08 am
I will second that.
 PB Blaster is one of my trade secrets.
The best penetrating oil have found yet.

I'll third that with second place going to good old Liquid Wrench.
Make sure your using a good 6mm allen wrench.
They are not left hand thread.
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Reply #9 on: March 12, 2010, 03:45:19 am
When removing corroded screws from cases on the job I we usually hit it with a penetrating oil (PB blaster, CRC or what have you) and let it sit a bit.. Then get a big standard screw drive (called a BF screwdriver) and position it where it will not mess up the head that much but will influence the bolt,  and hit the sucker  with a 5lb hammer...   Repeat the cycle 2 or 3 times and the oil will work in there and then you can usually back er out without stripping.   

 We usually walk the driver around the bolt in question and tap it with the hammer at an angle that will stress the seam of the bolt and casing/nut.  It takes some patience but usually works on all but the worst corrosion.
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Reply #10 on: March 12, 2010, 04:41:20 am
They are not left hand thread.
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I am trying to unscrew going counter clockwise. Thats how I usually unscrew. Is that right ?


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Reply #11 on: March 12, 2010, 05:01:01 am
I am trying to unscrew going counter clockwise. Thats how I usually unscrew. Is that right ?
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Reply #12 on: March 13, 2010, 04:33:17 am
I am trying to unscrew going counter clockwise. Thats how I usually unscrew. Is that right ?

Yes, but mine were very hard to unscrew as well.


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Reply #13 on: March 13, 2010, 06:11:34 am
Hey, I've never used bar end weights. Am I missing out on something here?
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Reply #14 on: March 13, 2010, 01:47:51 pm
  They come standard on the Electra models.  Take some of the buzz out of the handlebars.  But a good set of grips will usually do the same thing IMHO.  I use Beston grips and cut the vibes way down on my Military. 
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