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on: March 08, 2010, 05:05:12 am

Hi mates, :)

here is Fabrizio "McDeeb" Di Bella   (nickname "pistone" in this nice forum)

I'm glad to introduce you our new range of complete special bikes and conversions suitable both for the classic Bullets as for the new Bullet EFI models.

Look at our website http://www.mcdeeb.it
 to see our "Velocette" lookalike Thruxton based on a Bullet modified frame, wheels and engine.  This conversion can be based also on other power units and disc brake equipped bikes (we suggest it if you ask us a highly tuned version... ;))

Maybe only a few people know that relatioship between Royal Enfield Redditch and Veloce Ltd. (manufacturer of Velocette Venom, Thruxton & Clubman fast singles we now like to evocate) were strict in the sixties period.

To make an example, a prototype for a new Bullet and twin Interceptor had a frame designed and made by Veloce, while the spareparts for Royal Enfield UK in the late years of that company before close were manufactured and distributed through the Velocette factory. Another relation between the two British companies was some Enfileld engine inner part and crankcases  used by Velocette R&D branch to try to make a new and cheaper 250cc OHV power unit.

This is history and now it is not so  strange that we use  a Bullet to build our Velocette "evocation bikes"


In our website you can seen some pictures of the bikes (click on "Motorcycles") , a video and in the section called "Dicono di noi" also some magazines English spoken who told something about us...

other pics of our special you can find at: http://www.fedrotriple.it/mcdeeb.html


If some Enfiled dealers and passionates like to have more infos about pirces and technical featuers , don't esitate to contact us: fdibella09@libero.it



Thank you and best regards.

Fabrizio


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Reply #1 on: March 08, 2010, 08:15:46 am
Nice looking bikes!


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Reply #2 on: March 08, 2010, 09:18:29 am
Very nice, beautiful bikes and looks very much like the Thruxton.  Did I read correctly that the Six Days with the new EFI engine has a 535 kit?  
Great history lesson too, thanks.
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Reply #3 on: March 08, 2010, 10:26:06 am
Really beautiful bikes, very well put together, and presented with typical Italian passion.  Bravo !
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Reply #4 on: March 08, 2010, 12:21:24 pm
¡Le moto sono bella, Fratello Fabrizio!  ¡Bravissimo!
Long live the Bullets and those who ride them!

Keep the shiny side up, the boots on the pegs and best REgards,

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Reply #5 on: March 08, 2010, 12:38:00 pm


Grazie mille per la calorosa accoglienza, ragazzi !  (Per Cabo)

Thanks a lot for your warm welcome, guys !          (For all mates)


I hope you enjoy our specials and like to share with all the mates of this forum our mutual experiences in driving and improving the Bullets..that passionate bikes which you can hate or love but cannot avouid to note.

Today I've drive to test another tuning kit we are developing  fisrtly for our Six Days conversion (a big, big bore  ;D) and was funny to lift the front wheel easily...the new CDI gives a great advantage in the mid range, with a more torqueus performance output.

Coupling it with a shorter ratio, a open exaust and some inner modifications (larger piston, higher C:R, flowed head and so on) the  feeling remember me my own Kawasaki KDX overbored to 300cc....a great difference with the original RE EFI power unit.

We like to take part to some amateur races in the coming season (not in the higher level of enduros) only to test some solutions in extreme conditions.

Equipped with our "HJohnny Brittain Repllica" kit (with alloy rims, special shocks, modificed fork, alloy fuel tank , open pipe and silencer and toher off-road accessories) the Sux Days now weight 148 kgs only and we can make it lighter , too.

Stay in contact with some news.

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Reply #6 on: March 08, 2010, 12:42:14 pm
something more....


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Reply #7 on: March 08, 2010, 01:36:43 pm

also an Aussie magazine speaks about us... ;)



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Reply #8 on: March 08, 2010, 01:49:17 pm


a now a pic of our Clubman conversion 

note the rear frame with the tipical Velocette adjusting system for the shocks,
which allow to make easily the bike faster in strict cornering or more suitable for fast tracks,
modifiying the shock upper position you can adjust the rear: of the bike higher with "softer" damping effect for slow roads or lower with harder damping (and a wider angle of the fork for fast roads)


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Reply #9 on: March 08, 2010, 02:47:09 pm

another shot for the scrambler Six Days...


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Reply #10 on: March 08, 2010, 02:48:40 pm

the other side...


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Reply #11 on: March 09, 2010, 06:36:37 pm
Beutifull !!!
I can break it better,,,,at night, in the rain, on the trail,, 20 miles from nowhere.

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Reply #12 on: March 10, 2010, 12:38:08 am


Thank you guys !    :)

Your warm welcome are the best payment for lot of hours we spent in developing it.

In the past , Royal Enfields here were considered lnostalgic but a bit cheap and strange bikes , but in the last two years this opinion changed and mostly bikers think that are interesting and more peoples wish to buy one.

We love these bikes (I own five Bullets, two are deeply tuned but the other three are standard, except for the exhausts and very little improvements), and sometimes organize meetings, not only to show how kind of modifications we can do, but also to explain how funny can be drive a "running piece of history" .

For people who like to use a more modern bike, we suggest to use the new EFI with UCE engine, smoother and simpler on drivin', but my own solution is to have both: the latest models for daily use, while the older (but well maintained and improved) for a weekend as a "Ton Up boy" with other friends...also if you're fifty years old like me, ah ah ah   ;)


Now we offer our McDeeb special parts  (complete bikes, separate conversion kits and accessories alike clothes , gloves and goggles of the sixties taste) to all Royal Enfiield and cafe racer passionates.
Is our way to live as in the "Golden Era of motorcycling"....


Have a nice days !
Fabrizio "McDeeb" Di Bella


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Reply #13 on: March 11, 2010, 01:34:31 pm
Absolutely beautiful Bullets.  I'd love to see a #46 on that Thruxton ;)
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Reply #14 on: March 11, 2010, 03:45:37 pm

Thanks Boggy!

But I prefer Casey Stoner as Valentino Rossi.

Could seems strange but not all Italians love Valentino...my favourite is that little Aussie but like Nicky Hayden ,too.

My hearth is on some living legends as Giacomo Agostini, Kenny Roberts, Kevin Schwantz, Wayne Rainey, Eddy Lawson and a non -winner but great perfomer as the crazy Randy Mamola I know very well in the past.

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Reply #15 on: March 11, 2010, 04:40:20 pm
Could seems strange but not all Italians love Valentino

Ha!...

Ah... Ago is the best.  Looking forward to see what Ben Spies can do this year.  Poor Nicky Haden... he's having a tough time getting used to that Italian horse.  Stoner can do amazing things on that Ducati.  They are all pretty amazing to compete at that level.  Can't wait for the new season!
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Reply #16 on: March 11, 2010, 10:35:30 pm
A nice one page article on the McDeeb bikes in the latest Motorcycle Consumer News along with some photos.
The same issue has a big write up on the C-5.
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Reply #17 on: March 12, 2010, 02:58:53 am

Hi Leonard.

thanks for you advice on the Motorcycles Consumers New with an article about us.

Unfortunately I cannot see it in the magazine webpage    :'(

Please, can you upload it or send me a URL of a jpg to: info@mcdeeb.it
(or to my own e mail: fdibella09@libero.it)

I am really curious about it....    :)

Thank you and have a nice day on ridin'...now here is snowy    >:(

Fabrizio "McDeeb" Di Bella


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Reply #18 on: March 12, 2010, 06:54:32 am
A new link to see our bikes.... ;)

http://www.fedrotriple.it/mcdeeb.html


Cheers
Fabrizio
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Reply #19 on: March 12, 2010, 12:46:37 pm
thanks to Leonard, now we can see the page of MCN ...  ;)





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Reply #20 on: March 13, 2010, 09:38:49 pm
Saw that writeup yesterday in MCN. Made my heart thump. Best of luck to you sir.   Chuck.
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Reply #21 on: March 14, 2010, 03:59:51 pm


Thank for your support, Chuck !   :)

We have received a really positive feedback for passionates and dealers worldwide...

I think that also this year, we can only dream to have holidays   ;D

I like my job and if I have the possibility to work (and drive) motorcycles, it's enough to be happy.  :)

As follow a pic of one of my four tuned Bullet I've tested today at 2000 meters on the sea level.



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Reply #22 on: March 14, 2010, 04:05:59 pm


now the road is a bit difficult but the Bullet low centre of gravity and the smooth torque helps to drive in that particular conditions...

 a good way to improve the grip on these sliding surfaces is make a lower presure in the tires.

Tomorrow morning the workshop will be closed and I will go there to test a mild tuned EFI egnine fitted on one of our Six Days scrambler but with heavy knobby tires.

Good night

Fabrizio


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Reply #23 on: March 14, 2010, 08:26:19 pm
If I may;  The Clubman is driving me nuts because the tank bottom should be parallel to the ground.  However, I love the Thruxton.

I can find no real information in English.  Do you sell somplete bikes, or do you sell kits?
Is the a price list?  You talk about tuning bikes, but I don't understand what that entails.   Is there a place I can get more information and prices in English?
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Reply #24 on: March 15, 2010, 07:34:09 am

Sorry , the English version (as a new and larger website) is under construction, but I can give you alla the infos you need.

About the other questions:

Yes, we sale both complete special bikes (based on brand new Bullets or on the customer's bike) as separate parts and full conversion kits.

Now we are talking with some operators which like to trade our parts, while to export complete bikes, I think, is more complicate.

A solution we used with a private customer (who bought the bike after seeing it during an exhibition and payed us immediately to have it soonest)  is to make the bike road legal here, then ship as an used bike to its destination abroad.

About the tuning kit,  let me know which engine you have on you Bullet and I will suggest you what we consider the proper tuning for your  purpose and its cost.

It's a bit different tune up an EFI instead an AVL or a older classic engine, depending also if you like to have only more torque and a smoother  engine for quiet travels on the hills, or you need something stronger to use for quick and short races in a racetrack....and it depends also on the budget you like to spend.


The classic engine is easier to improve for capacity, while the first  lean burn you can overbore to 540cc. but the biggest and more affordabile improving we had on that power unit  was by flowing the head and changing exuaust and carburettor only.

A proper shape of the combustion chamber, a right C:R and the flowed head intakes, coupled with a neat carburettor setting and the right (a bit loud) exhaust, gives a great performance improving (sometimes larger as the overbored engines which sometimes is easier and cheaper, but not the ultimate solution) .
The choices are too much to explain it without knowing whiich kind of engine we are  talking about.

For your reference,my favourite for tuning is the late AVL, but we work also on the other carburettor engines and are going to introduce  also special parts for the EFI.  

Let  me know what you like and Iwe do it for you...   ;)


Cheers
Fabrizio
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Reply #25 on: March 15, 2010, 02:20:41 pm
Wellll... I blew up the picture of the Thruxton for more detail.  The rear-sets look too far back and high, I couldn't possibly use clip-ons- so there goes the Dunstall fairing... I have the CMW rear-sets, so I assume the Brooklands muffler won't work... Love the tank.
> sigh <

We've covered engine mods a lot here, and I'm happy with what little I've done.  My experience has taught me to start at the bottom and work up for any real additon to make an engine more robust- not just (temporarily) faster.

Oh well- I was kind of excited there for a while.  I'd love for my bike to look the part, but actually sitting on it is more important for me at this time.  I'm looking forward to the english website, though.
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Reply #26 on: March 17, 2010, 01:38:08 am


Why you suppose the Brooklands fishtail muffler cannot work with rearsets we have fitted, too?    Our are not so high, the only need is that it are far enough.
Look also to  another detail (a bit small to see easily  :() : the gear change pedal end is turnable when you have to use the kickstarter.

If somebody cannot use clip-ons, we suggest hiim to switch to the Clubman, pratically a "naked" version of the Thruxton we also supply with normal footpegs and higher ace handlebar on request.

All are "tailored under costumer's requests"...as the Velocette but also like the hight end model of Royal Enfield in Redditch...   ;)

Look at this site for a good English text:
http://www.sumpmagazine.com/Mc-Deeb.htm

Have a nice day, guy!


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Reply #27 on: March 17, 2010, 11:04:53 am
That's a very cool site, Don Pistone!

¡Buona fortuna, fratello!
Long live the Bullets and those who ride them!

Keep the shiny side up, the boots on the pegs and best REgards,

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Reply #28 on: March 17, 2010, 03:47:51 pm


Ah ah ah    DON PISTONE !

Looks fine...

as Don ....



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Reply #29 on: March 17, 2010, 04:17:27 pm

This "Don" is a joke, guy.

To be more serious, i like to share with you our latest expericence with the Bullet AVL engine improving.

We have spent some days in testing on the dyno (thanks to my past job in kawasaki off road R&D dept.) but aloso on the road.

We tested an AVL engine with standard capacity in different state of mild tuning.

With the Euro 2 rules after a proper running in (in means with airbox and standard filter, caburettor, pipe and silencer ) using normal fuel we had 22,5 HP at the rear wheel  (not so bad but not so good, too)
The same engine without the airbox and a new setting has only 1 HP more, but the real iprovement we obtained with an open exhaust we tested in several ways.
After some comparizon betwwen different carburettor, we checked the best coupling carburettor type/exhaust type.
NOTE: The head was flowed by us.

At this moment I cannot say which kind of carburettor we finally used , because I don't like to give pre-view without finishing the tests but I let you know as follow:

We checked between : a) Goldstar open muffler (UK made)
                                       b) Bottle sport exhaust (Made by us with and without db killer)
                                       c) Megaton cone (UK made, with and without db killer)
                                       d) Road legal cone silencer (made in Germany)
We changed a lot of jets, and carburettor components, while the other setting of the bike remained the same, changing only the exhiasts.

The best performance , both on the dyno as on the road, we had with the solution b, the solution c has almost a similar performancse but was too loud for road use.

The d make "vain" the new carburettor and the setting...sorry.

The a was only a bit less efficient as b and c, but the noise of the Goldstar was  like a music, better as the bottle and not so loud as the megaton

The best speed on the road was 92 mph  with  the standard high handlebar and a driver in prone position, after a launch of one kilometer.
We tihink it is enough.  :)

Ciao


                         


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Reply #30 on: March 17, 2010, 04:45:30 pm
Don Pistone, that's a very good photo of you!  ::)

Ciao
Long live the Bullets and those who ride them!

Keep the shiny side up, the boots on the pegs and best REgards,

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Reply #31 on: March 18, 2010, 01:19:49 am


Was taken when I was young, before change my job....

Now I like to work on bikes and "shot" engines instead of men   ;D


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Reply #32 on: March 21, 2010, 07:35:14 am


Look at this http://www.sumpmagazine.com/Mc-Deeb.htm

Somebody in Chenai has read it and called us....

 ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)


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Reply #33 on: March 21, 2010, 03:55:32 pm
Just read that that Thruxton is 14K pouinds.  That's around $22K USD... !   That's a lot of love there.
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Reply #34 on: March 22, 2010, 05:47:47 pm

The price can seem high but you have to consider that on the "top" version there are the following modifications & changed parts:

clip on handlebar
vintage Doherty handgrips , brake and clutch levers
Amal decompressor & choke levers
vintage Cev switchers
vintage "idiot lights"
new front and rear light
new fork jokes
Smiths instruments (racing rev meter & tachometer)
special brake cables and wires
special shoepads
modified drum plates and alloy cooling rings
stainless spokes & alloy rims
sport tyres
special rear shocks
new fork inner parts
new electric wiring
Avon half-fairing and mountings (with lower sidepanels included)
alloy fuel tank, froint & rear mudguards , battery cover and toolbox
Monza cap and racing fuel tap
mudguard mountings and seat support
seat
rear set (with turnable gear change lever) and kickstarter
backswept pipe & fishtail silencer
alloy engine plates
handmade gold pinstriping
stainless bolts and various accessories (chain tension adjusters and so on)
Amal racing carburettor with its manifold and bellmouth
Flowed head ports ( different level of tuning for the engine)
Paint and other finishing on customer's request

Two persons work on each Thruxton we manufacture about 200/250 hours..
That's true: it is a question of love  :)





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Reply #35 on: March 23, 2010, 04:23:20 am
About the cost of our Thruxton which probably worry Uncle Ernie  ;)  we like to explain it  as follow:

1)price depends on which level of equipment is requested: the Thruxton (as Clubman and Six Days showed in our website and by some magazines) being show bikes  assembled for exhibitions and test,  are "full optionals", but good bikes can be obtained with a lower budget, too.

2) The price is  included a brand new Bullet , but it can be lower if the donor bike is supplied by the customer (we can also find well used Bullets at a cheap price , eventually overhauled if needs).We are going to offer also conversion kit and separate parts, avoiding problems and cost to export complete bikes.

3) Lot of components are handmade by skill artisans and on the next 12 production bikes (already sold) we are manufacturing at this moment, nothing is bought from external suppliers , incluiding the alloy fuel tank (which is a bit larger as on the pictured bike).

To check which level of finishing and equipment our bikes has,  look at this gallery :

http://www.mcdeeb.it/Thruxton%20Gallery/index.html   (page 1, 2 and 3)

A picture is better as thousand words.....


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Reply #36 on: March 23, 2010, 09:30:00 am
Questions;

1)  How does an Italian company come by a name that sounds Irish?
2) Did you trade the shifter and brake pedals for a better "feeL"?  Can the stock set-up (shifter on the left) be maintained?
3)  Does that Brooklnds muffler hang down any further that other mufflers?  Will it scrape?  How much is it?
4)  Seems a shame to paint a custom aluminium tank.  Is the Thruxton tank available un-painted?
5)  I see the rear shocks are adjustable fore and aft -as on some turely vintage machines.  What effect does that have on the handling (or is it mainly for looks)?
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Reply #37 on: March 23, 2010, 11:27:18 am

McDeeb doesn't sound Irish but Scottish, guy ! 

Curiously, my grandmother told me severalk times that her parents had half Scottish half Austrian origins, but the real reason of that "strange" name is that my dad nickname was Dib.
Dib sounds similar to Deeb (Dib came from Di Bella, my own family name since several hundreds year) so a friend of mine told that due to my "insane" passion for British bikes, "McDeeb"  could be better. isn't enough?

About the right gear change: the bike showed was originally fitted with it by the factory, so it work well !

Mostly of the other Bullets we customize are left gear change.

We never make conversions from right to left gear change, so cannot say if the performance is worst or the same as the original.

The Brooklands muffler works fine (less as a megatone but also less loudly) ,  the noise is not so high to have problems, also if this exhaust is not "road legal".
Its position is so closer to the bike side that scratch it on the ground could be the last problem because you scratch you ears before the fishtail ;D

The position of the rear shocks can be adjusted to change the handling : if the high is bolted to the position in the picture, the rear is a bit higher (with softer damping and a less angle for the steering, making quicker entering the bike in the corner, good for mountain roads)
on the opposite, the vertical position of shocks, make the rear lower (and the steering angle wider) as the harder damping give more stability on fast roads.


Thiis solution was patented by Veloce Ltd (manufacturer of Velocette motorcycles) but used also from  some other brands, since the bikes had two shocks: lift up the rear of a motorcycles can influence the handling...so we make it both for the Velocette look as for the function.

Chhers
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Reply #38 on: March 24, 2010, 08:21:54 am
I forgot another question:

on the standard equippped Thruxton and Clubman , being two Velocette lookalike, we paint the fuel tanks in black or silver grey.

On the Thruxton the standard tank is made in alloy (as all the other body parts) so could be strange to cover the shining metal...but the customer can have it polished instead of painted.

On the Clubman the standard tank is in sheet metal  (alloy equipment is on request) so must be painted or chromed.

Your funny mistake, dear Uncle Ernie  ;), is to consider the McDeeb as "stock" motorcycles" instead of "limited productiion specials" we are manufactoring for all customers under their own requests.

So prices have to be checked: the bikes showed are fitted with all the possible optionals (and sometimes a bit more...) but the next bikes we are already assembling have different levels of equipment, and different prices.

Isn't it clear enough?

Stay in contact.
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Reply #39 on: March 29, 2010, 04:31:07 am
I know many have already said it but I'll say it anyway. That Thruxton is one beautiful bike, probably one of the most beautiful Bullets I've ever seen!!
"If it ain't broke to bits, don't fix it!"

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Reply #40 on: March 29, 2010, 05:45:00 am


Thanks Sid !

(Are you that "Sid" ?    ;)       (joke)


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Reply #41 on: March 29, 2010, 07:54:08 am
"Your funny mistake, dear Uncle Ernie  , is to consider the McDeeb as "stock" motorcycles" instead of "limited productiion specials" we are manufactoring for all customers under their own requests."

Sorry- I didn't mean to imply anything negative.

I'm curious about engine set-up.  Anything / everyting available ala carte?  Do you plan "standard" -or perhaps I should say "base-line- modifications?
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Reply #42 on: March 30, 2010, 05:49:36 am


Absolutely no problem ,Uncle Ernie !     :)

(maybe my "artisan English" makes little misunderstandings)

Our job is to offer complete specials on our domestic market , assembled mainly on brand new Bullets but also on used bikes found by us or already owned by the customers, too.

As you know , there are several diferences between various Bullet versions; here we have "classic engine s", "first generation of Euro 2 engines" then "AVL Euro 2, pratically the 2.nd generation" and finally the EFI UCE engines.

Also about the frames, also between bikes fitted with the same engine type, there are differences from "classic" and "Electra" or other models , so we had to develop tanks, mudguards and its supports (and for the seat, too) for different mountings.

Also some big Enfield tuners are considering what could be better to do , avoiding to waste time and money.

Thanks to our quite small dimensions, we can supply pieces for all Bullets having in stock mostly parts (and it will became larger during the next months) while for particular needs we can make it "a la carte" as you told.

I don't know which kind of tuning or customizations you like but ask us , if you need it, and we'll let you know about our products suitable on your bike.

We are receiving requests from some Countries and it makes a little delay in processing it, but we reply to all persons who contact us..


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Reply #43 on: March 30, 2010, 03:40:25 pm
You are able to get more from an AVL than I can. I have replaced carb and exhaust for a little improvement, but can get no where near 92mph. I am curious about the head work you do. Any chance you will be selling performance parts.


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Reply #44 on: March 30, 2010, 07:59:20 pm

We have spent some days in testing on the dyno (thanks to my past job in kawasaki off road R&D dept.) but aloso on the road.

We tested an AVL engine with standard capacity in different state of mild tuning.

With the Euro 2 rules after a proper running in (in means with airbox and standard filter, caburettor, pipe and silencer ) using normal fuel we had 22,5 HP at the rear wheel  (not so bad but not so good, too)
The same engine without the airbox and a new setting has only 1 HP more, but the real iprovement we obtained with an open exhaust we tested in several ways.
After some comparizon betwwen different carburettor, we checked the best coupling carburettor type/exhaust type.
NOTE: The head was flowed by us.                  


Now that is a lot of performance from a 500 cc engine. What performave mods would you recommend , say, to increase the cruising speed (without engine stress) to about 70-75 mph.  I asked you this question in a PM also, but would appreciate a response in the open forum as well to stimulate more discussion.

I have a 2009 electra AVL with a relatively free exhaust, rejet stock carb and a KnN filter : http://www.amazon.com/DU-0100-Replacement-Air-Filter/dp/B000FGJQY0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1269997053&sr=8-1 .

I am no way near that kind of speed with these mods. I guess I would also need a set of rear disk breaks at that speed also.

Thanks


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Reply #45 on: April 03, 2010, 12:49:17 pm

Hi  gys,

I'm in holidays now and cannot reply so long through a mate PC without fast connection.

We are also spending time in enjoing tests of upgrading parts, and will report soon about it.

About rejetting Amal , Mikuni or Kehin I think the best source of suggests could be another as me, due to my own preference for Dell'orto carburettors.

This is not due to the fact that Dell'Orto are made in Italy (I still use japanese carburettors on some other bikes, not only Suzuki , Honda and  so on) but I have a longer experience in use it on supermono (SOS) and twins racing tuning.

Adjiust this carburettor here is cheaper, quicker and  easier for us , because we can have a direct relation with the manufacturer.

i know that some japanese carburettor (but the original ones...) can give a smooth engine but I think you need to invest a lot to have more power by fitting a racing Kehin or Mikuni.

This is my own opinion and can be surely criticized.

Have a nice weekend, hear you the endo of next week.

Fabrizio


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Reply #46 on: April 09, 2010, 09:38:02 am
A nice little pick up by The Kneeslider about the McDeeb Clubman 500 Superlight

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2010/04/03/mcdeeb-clubman-500-superlight/
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Reply #47 on: April 09, 2010, 10:10:58 am
Thanks, Br. Boggy... very cool, Don Pistone!  8)
Long live the Bullets and those who ride them!

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Reply #48 on: April 10, 2010, 01:21:17 pm


Hi mates,
sorry for my long absence but I was really busy and travelling , too.

Yesterday it was my birhday and a fantastic present come from Chennai.

I will inform you about soonest as possible.

Have a roaring weekend !

Fabrizio "McDeeb"


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Reply #49 on: April 12, 2010, 02:18:07 am

Thanks Sid !

(Are you that "Sid" ?    ;)       (joke)

Well, I've been gone a long time, haven't I?

I am neither 'this' Sid nor "that Sid", I am THE Sid! I am Siddharth!

(Does that sound like a cool response to your joke? Yes? No? Maybe? Is it very late in the night? Is my sense of humour 'nerdy' or corny? Is 2+2=4? :P )
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Reply #50 on: April 12, 2010, 04:23:07 am

Hi mates,
sorry for my long absence but I was really busy and travelling , too.

Yesterday it was my birhday and a fantastic present come from Chennai.

I will inform you about soonest as possible.

Have a roaring weekend !

Fabrizio "McDeeb"

Belated Happy Birthday! What did you get from Chennai?
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Reply #51 on: April 12, 2010, 11:00:53 am

My first "half century" was great...I hope the same for the second one !  ah ah

From Chennai I received a fantastic comment about our bikes from one of their boss and an invitation I will take soon.

Hear you soon
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Reply #52 on: April 12, 2010, 02:54:52 pm
My first "half century" was great...I hope the same for the second one !  ah ah

From Chennai I received a fantastic comment about our bikes from one of their boss and an invitation I will take soon.

Hear you soon
Fabrizio

Is that "ah ah" a cry in old age pain or laughter mis-spelt?  ;D ;)

Well, I'd thank RE for any compliment and give them feedback about their poor manufacturing quality.

And, congratulations on both counts.  :)
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Reply #53 on: April 12, 2010, 05:35:38 pm


To be sincere I don't think the RE quality is poor.

I understand their efforts already maked to improve it and appreciate some results.

On the opposite, I 've considered how worst is becaming the quality of other more famous brands.

 


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Reply #54 on: April 12, 2010, 08:37:26 pm
¡Felice compleanno, fratello, Don Pistone!

Now, here's a song, from a lovely lady, just for you on your birthday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4SLSlSmW74
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Reply #55 on: April 15, 2010, 04:12:46 pm

To be sincere I don't think the RE quality is poor.

I understand their efforts already maked to improve it and appreciate some results.

On the opposite, I 've considered how worst is becaming the quality of other more famous brands.

 

RE may have improved quality somewhat but they're still far from what one would expect for the price. In any case, the export models are of better quality than the home models where there's no end to the complaints the Bullet-owner community has.

My Bullet was manufactured at a time when bikes were built to last. Nowadays, RE uses poorer quality metals and longevity is not much of a concern. I know how things are here in India and where I'm from Bullet sales are maximum.
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Reply #56 on: April 19, 2010, 12:57:51 pm
I think The Kneeslider is in love.  Here is another McDeeb blog post about how small shops are making their own mark customizing production bikes.

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2010/04/07/the-possibilities-of-limited-production-specials/
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Reply #57 on: April 19, 2010, 08:11:17 pm
Nice article, the Mcdeeb bikes are pretty cool.
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Reply #58 on: April 19, 2010, 09:10:41 pm
Yep, Don Pistone deserves all the good press he's getting for his gorgeous creations!
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Reply #59 on: April 20, 2010, 10:36:39 am
Fabrizzio, some really cool Enfields, form as well as function! My favorite is the Six-Day model with all the lovely detailing and special parts like the rear sets and drilled levers. I see that you have retained the front fork but I was wondering what  are the shock absorbers you are using at the rear and what length?

I do a bit of dual riding on and off road here in India, hence my interest in the suspension set-up.

Best

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Reply #60 on: April 25, 2010, 03:16:22 am


Hi HMR,

nice to hear you.

The rear shocks are made bu us.
We manufacture the body by CNC machining solid aircraft alloy billet (7075T6 , also called Ergal, lighter as steel but more strong. too)

Both spring rate as lenght and oil type and setting are made under customers specifications. The model fitted on our Sux Days are 12-15 mm longer as the standard but we can make it shorter as harder and softer depending on how you weight, how baggages you usually carry, if you drive alone or with a passenger.

The cost is higher as the standard shocks but similar to the best model of Hagon and in Italy is lower as a Ikon (ex Koeni) shocks pair.

About the front fork , for esigent customers we usually improve it with special springs, spacers, some little modifications inside and a good quality oil we use also in classic races.

Cheers

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Reply #61 on: April 25, 2010, 10:37:52 pm
Thanks Fabrizzio. So, any chance of seeing these McDeeb model range in India?

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Reply #62 on: May 05, 2010, 06:03:58 am


Maybe...... ;)


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Reply #63 on: May 06, 2010, 11:32:38 pm

Maybe...... ;)

Let me guess -- the Thruxton or the Clubman  ;D

My favorite is the Six Day... wish they would get that

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Reply #64 on: May 06, 2010, 11:35:33 pm
Hey Fabrizio,

Friends of yours??
http://www.royalmcqueen.it/

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Reply #65 on: June 09, 2010, 12:36:57 am


Not at all, mate !     ;D

Frankly speaking, we consider our job a bit different.

We prefer to improve both suspensions and engine function as look...but think the first aspects must be more important as a funny painting or a glittering scallop.. ;)

About our philosophy to make a special, look at our latest video to understand it:

http://www.mcdeeb.it/Filamato%20six%20Days%20Fabrizio.htm

(you need to install Quick Player if cannot see it)

Give us your feedbacks, we like to have the opinion of more Royalp Enfield fans as possible.


This nice website has published some infos about our newest works:
http://www.sumpmagazine.com/Mc-Deeb.htm
 
(I hope you enjoy it)


Have a nice day, guys.

Fabrizio





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Reply #66 on: June 09, 2010, 01:33:14 am

Fabrizzio, that's fantastic! The film really showcases the ability of the McDeeb motorcycles -- that wheelie seemed so effortless!

I'm a fan!

Cheers

HMR
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Not at all, mate !     ;D

Frankly speaking, we consider our job a bit different.

We prefer to improve both suspensions and engine function as look...but think the first aspects must be more important as a funny painting or a glittering scallop.. ;)

About our philosophy to make a special, look at our latest video to understand it:

http://www.mcdeeb.it/Filamato%20six%20Days%20Fabrizio.htm

(you need to install Quick Player if cannot see it)

Give us your feedbacks, we like to have the opinion of more Royalp Enfield fans as possible.


This nice website has published some infos about our newest works:
http://www.sumpmagazine.com/Mc-Deeb.htm
 
(I hope you enjoy it)


Have a nice day, guys.

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Reply #67 on: June 09, 2010, 06:51:05 am


Thanks mate,

consider that Six Days has an almost stock engine (only with a little modification to the injection, a special filter and our own pipe and muffler on the exhaust, which can give 4,5-6.0 HP more)

My own Six Days  (which has a louder pipe and a prototype 545cc engine we are developing ) will be probably more funny.

Yesterday I've tested it on a enduro track not far from my home, where I usually developed the Kawasaki KX of the italian enduro factory team.

It was umbeliveable: despite of 150kgs, I can run at a good speed also on that rocky path, slower as a two strokes or a racing 450 KX but a lot faster as other scramblers or road-touring off-road bikes.


I will make another video soon.

Cheers

Fabrizio


P.S. Please, can you show that video to some VIP managers  in Mombay?  ;)


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Reply #68 on: June 10, 2010, 05:09:58 pm
Hi Fabrizio

A while ago you had mentioned that you will be providing a carburetor kit for the lectra (Dell'oreto PHBE 32 mm). Is that still in the works. When can we expect to see that.

Thanks.

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Reply #69 on: June 11, 2010, 12:28:29 am

Hi, 1 Thump,

yes, finally the kit is going on production.

After testing it on some prototypes bikes (both on as off-road) now  we are waiting only our supplier give us the ultimate alloy machined manifolds.

The special filter and Dell'orto carburettors are still in stock, already properly jetted and tuned for  the AVL engine.

I think the complete kits will be avaiable in seven or eight days.

About the total price ,we have to wait the ultimate NC machined piece, but will be quite interesting in comparison to the torque and output increasing.

Testing it on my own Clubman and the a "factory" Six Days, I did lot of kilometers also on the rain as in  other heavy conditions and performance as starting, idle and engine smoothness (is it the right word?) remain the same.

The two bikesfitted with Dell'ortos, our filter and exhaust were hardly tested from selected customers who own standard AVLs and some test-riders of motorcycles magazines and their feedbacks were enthusiastic, so we decidet to offer this conversion kit also a separate item.

Adequate improving is suitable also with the standard exhaust but the best is a mild open "bottle" or our Gold Star muffler with the "db killer" in.


Hear you soon.

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Reply #70 on: June 11, 2010, 03:56:25 pm
Great. Just keep us posted. Do you havea dyno chart to show what kind of improvemnt you get with the kit ?

Thanks.


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Reply #71 on: June 16, 2010, 02:52:03 pm

We like to show it after finishing the running in.
 My own bike (used also on our video) has 231 miles only: I prefer to preserve it from other heavy purposes avoiding to run at full throttle too early.

The last two weeks was rainy and I need to run about 1000 miles before stress it.
I plan to use it a lot on the next weekend (also if the weather is bad: I' m tired to wait the sun...) so will make the dyno test a few days later.

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Reply #72 on: June 17, 2010, 11:44:10 am



My own Six Days  (which has a louder pipe and a prototype 545cc engine we are developing ) will be probably more funny.


Is the 545cc engine an AVL ?


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Reply #73 on: June 18, 2010, 12:36:22 am


Our AVL big bore kit is just ready while the G5 version is still on developing.

I am more a mechanic as a "merchant", so franlkly speakin' I must say that on the AVLs we were surprised while discovering the output grow up more thanks to the new Dell'Orto carburetor, the manifold and filter coupled wit a more free exhaust as by the sole overbore kit (piston & cilynder).

Making a bigger displacement only you must open the engine but have less improvement as on the carburetor+filter+exhaust changing, because the output and torque growing is of 10 % as the capacity increase (aprox. 2 HP), while the other upgrading (instead of the original carburetor, fillter and muffler) can give about 4/5 HP.

The AVL engine has a good margin to increase the power and we liike to explore it deeply but my own opinion is that a mild tuning is enough for daily purpose of mostly owners.

We need a little time more to finish the developing of our monster kit (a 540cc with twin exhausts we're workin' on) but are not sure to offer it on sale, due to its excessive costs.

 


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Reply #74 on: June 18, 2010, 02:50:51 pm
Nice video !
 http://www.mcdeeb.it/Filamato%20six%20Days%20Fabrizio.htm
  Its on my very short list of all time favourites
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Reply #75 on: June 18, 2010, 05:50:38 pm
Nice video !
 http://www.mcdeeb.it/Filamato%20six%20Days%20Fabrizio.htm
  Its on my very short list of all time favourites

Yeah, I like it too.  I need to learn how to ride in the dirt - it looks too damn fun!
The soundtrack is also pretty damn groovy!

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Reply #76 on: June 20, 2010, 09:38:22 am


Thanks a lot Eamon !

The gy who drive in the dirt is my mate Marcello Disetti.

After working some year with me in the workshop, now he is a professional motocross rider but still help us in testing and developing engine and chassis (fork, shocks and the handling)

In the last months he was mainly involved in competitions (both national as international races) as on the last developments I had to handle alone, so was deeeply surprised by the last improving we made on our Six Days model.

His verdict was "This damn' special run much lighter, powerful and quick in cornerings as I suppose and push me to forget it came from a modified road bike"...

He also told: "Due to the lightness I asked several times a bit too much , like I daily do on my CRF450 but this good ol' bike never failed under that heavy use" ....and his big smile while driving was the best appreciation we can receive.

After performing the video, Marcello asked us to drive it longer also outside the dirt, so we run all the remaining day, beating on the mountain roads all around our garage.

Thanks to being a former road hillcliimbing racer I was often faster as him, but it was an exilarating day for both, we never crashed and this was strange, too...

 I hope the video can show how much passion we put in our job.

If somebody will came in Italy for holidays or work, we are glad to offer him a test on our bikes.

Cheers
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Reply #77 on: June 22, 2010, 07:06:43 pm
Hey Fabrizio,
Any plans to do a efi kit? There seems to be a gap in the market for a air filter for the efi. I don't know of anyone making one yet. Id love to see a canister like the ace, but ace is not interested in parts for the efi. Pipe  choices are also very limited, only a couple out there.

If you made a airfilter/exhaust kit I bet it would sell well.


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Reply #78 on: June 23, 2010, 03:47:46 pm


Our air filter and high pipe + silencer for EFI it is already avaiable .

The high pipe was developed for our Six Days but can fit also on the road version.

If somebody doesn't like to use the high pipe, the muffler can fit also on the original with an adapter we can supply.

Note: the silencer is road legal in Europe.
It is not loud (we can supply it in two different level of noise: road legal or mild racing)
but we can not afford the homologation for US for few pieces.

The Six Days you can see in the video on our website while wheeling is equipped with our kit (filter, pipe and silencer)
 http://www.mcdeeb

click on "video" section and select the left (On any sunday...)


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Reply #79 on: June 23, 2010, 06:03:08 pm
How/where do we buy/hear these?


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Reply #80 on: June 24, 2010, 12:45:35 am


Is really easy to hear it : look at our video.

The Siix Days is fitted with the kit filter + mild racing exhaust.

 (It is not so loud, to allow  to use it on the road, but also a quieter version is avaiable on request, both are homologated here)

To have it, we are thinking to supply it also to single customers but could be better to place a order through a dealer , also if fitting isn't complicate.

It is not correct to speak about prices in this topic but a private message can solve all your questions.

Note: today another motorcycles magazine riders are coming to test our conversion kit for EFI , so maybe I cannot reply to you before tomorrow.

The most important Italian magazine has already tested the bike fitted with this kit and the feedback was really good for performance and "evocative" sound . I have a preview of the article and can leave it after the august issue will be printed about the second week of next month (about July 15-17th).

have a nice days, guys!

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Reply #81 on: June 24, 2010, 10:11:30 am
Hey Fabrizio,

Any news on the Carburetor kit ?

Thanks.


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Reply #82 on: June 24, 2010, 03:17:46 pm


Yeah !    ;D

Finally we are going to receive the first lot of production machined alloy manifolds.

The Dell'Orto 32 mm carburettor and the other parts are already in stock.

Another week of patience and we can inform about the toital price and supply it everywhere.

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Reply #83 on: June 25, 2010, 12:42:17 am
I guess I could go to a 19 tooth sprocket with it. Will I need a longer chain ?


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Reply #84 on: June 25, 2010, 04:38:52 am


I need to explain our kit composed by air filer and exhaust system (pipe & silencer) need to take off the palsti aribox , to fit the conic filter directly on the intakes.


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Reply #85 on: June 29, 2010, 12:37:46 am
Hi Fabrizio,

This thread has been quiet for a while. Whats news at your end.

Cheerz !
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Reply #86 on: July 16, 2010, 12:32:15 am

Hello mates !

Sorry fot that lon delay but we were busy both on bikes manufacturing as on our new website organizing.

Look it:
 http://www.mcdeeb.it

(The address is the same as the old URL but all is new)

Starting from the end of this month, the upgrading/performance kits will be avaiable for dealers and private customers also separate from complete bikes which remain our core business.
A great request pushed us to offer it also as separate parts but making a good stock was quite longer for a small factory as we are.

Hear you soon with some other news.

Ciao
Fabrizio.


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Reply #87 on: July 17, 2010, 07:54:22 am
Hi Pistone, Jack Erskine here I am still waiting to hear from you with Price Quotes for the Various Items we discussed by E-Mail,
Could you please be so Kind to forward same at your earliest convince'
We look forward to hearing from you in the near future,

Best Regards. Jack Erskine.      jackerskine@dodo.com.au


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Reply #88 on: July 17, 2010, 10:04:56 am
Ya you guys should set up a ebay or yahoo store so people know whats available and the prices.

I'm hoping you sell a simple air box kit. I already have a muffler on order.


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Reply #89 on: July 18, 2010, 02:00:31 pm


Hi mates,
finally we are going to give the priceliist for your separate special parts.

We spent a long time to make the homologation of our complete bikes with different sizes of wheels...and I've lost a few time in supplying some test bikes to the motorcycles magazines both in Italy as in France and UK....but also crashing during a off road test !   >:(

I hope to give you the above infos during the next week.

I will post some images about the articles on our bikes: the feedbacks iare really good

Stay in contact.

Fabrizio


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Reply #90 on: August 01, 2010, 08:27:28 am
Any update on pricing/availability? Im still looking for a C5 Air box!


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Reply #91 on: December 05, 2010, 07:54:44 am

Hi mates,   :)

I apologize for my long dealy in reply to this thread

In the last six months we were hardly involved in our complete special manufacturing, so no time was left to satisfy requests for  make and supply separare parts.

About twenty complete McDeeb bikes based on brand new and well used Bullets come out from our workshop, 60% were Six days , the other Clubman Superlight, only a few Thruxton and Clubman Classic.

it was a satisfying but hard challenge for all people who works in and under Classic Farm Motorcycles but now only positive feedbacks are caming from customers,...and it pays for all sacrifices we did.

Starting from next week we finally can supply separate parts for privates or garage/workshop and the price is a bit lowered due to growing quantity we can trade now.

For eventual enquires , please contact me directly at :fdibella09libero.it
or the store at : classicfarmstore@libero.it

and we will be glad to give you all you need (info, parts, assistance, suggests) .

We havedeveloped also new products and performance parts buyt it's to long to describe it in this thread and I don't like to make advertsing in this way.
Output charts and videos could be send to all Bullet passionates if requested at the above addres.


Note: dont' contact the manufacturing dept. at mcDeeb for separate parts or maybe your request will be lost.

Cheers

Fabrizio


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Reply #92 on: December 26, 2010, 08:23:31 pm
Go Italy.  My home country.


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Reply #93 on: September 04, 2018, 02:07:03 am
You guys still making these bikes? I have seen not-responding domain from the link you provide !!