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rajactech

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on: January 27, 2010, 01:59:26 pm
How to start the bike in a single kick???? ??? any tips ???
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Reply #1 on: January 27, 2010, 02:06:10 pm
Well, here is a start..

http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,72.0.html

My 95' has a richer slide and will start in a single kick 98% of the time.  My 07' needs 2 or 3 kicks if it has been sitting overnight, one kick if it has been used in the past 12 hours,  gotta do some tuning on it.
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Reply #2 on: January 27, 2010, 02:08:39 pm
Check some vedios of starting the bike in single kick in the below link

http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&source=hp&q=starting bullet in a singl e kick&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=MkhgS43mKo7k7AP48K3GDA&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=ti tle&resnum=1&ved=0CA4QqwQwAA
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Reply #3 on: January 27, 2010, 05:27:11 pm
At the moment I am getting a consistent first try start - with the bike having sat in the shed for a week at 0 - 5 centigrade:

One kick with clutch pulled to free the plates.

Two priming kicks with cold start device engaged (any more and the plug is fuel fouled).

One kick  to start the motor - cold start device off - (barely runs with that engaged).

And away she goes.

Over richening a cold start is the most likely pitfall for my Bullet
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Reply #4 on: January 27, 2010, 06:02:08 pm
I've never used the clutch on KS. I'll try this when I get my bike back together.

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Reply #5 on: January 27, 2010, 06:08:51 pm
Some say the clutch freeing kick does nothing but I find that a week in the shed sticks those plates together somewhat, which makes the first time selection of bottom gear crunchy.

A second kick with the clutch pulled in doesn't have the resist-before-letting-go feel to it that the first does.
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Reply #6 on: January 27, 2010, 06:55:26 pm
My experience is very similar to Chasfield... particularly the choke/enricher/cold start device... my '07 iron-lung won't start with it "on" in anything except the coldest conditions.  If it doesn't catch on the first kick with it on, it has to be off or it never will.

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Reply #7 on: January 27, 2010, 09:28:31 pm


   Unlike a couple of Kawasakis I have owned, my Enfield clutch plates never seem to stick. Both Kawas (KLR250 and a KLR650) always stuck after sitting overnight. I do, however, always give the Enfield a priming 360 degree engine rotation when cold. It usually starts well cold, but then it can't decide whether it wants the choke on or off as it warms up.

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Reply #8 on: January 28, 2010, 01:43:25 am
Not only does my Bullet start with a single kick(no throttle) it breaks into a fast idle and stays there when on the enrichener. 30mm flatslide, the original micarb never did that irregardless of how it was jetted.
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Reply #9 on: January 28, 2010, 05:54:11 am
After about a month of frustration I found the magic tickle spot where my bike will start on 1-3 kicks.  I follow the instructions I found on here exactly and always use the decompressor with the ignition off first and it works wonders.

She even started on one kick the other day while 5 people were watching me. I was so proud of her.  8)



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Reply #10 on: January 28, 2010, 06:34:53 am
Some say the clutch freeing kick does nothing but I find that a week in the shed sticks those plates together somewhat, which makes the first time selection of bottom gear crunchy.

A second kick with the clutch pulled in doesn't have the resist-before-letting-go feel to it that the first does.
I used ford ATF in my primary...noticed  no stickin, but me being the loose nut behind the handlebars may not know any better :D
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Reply #11 on: January 29, 2010, 10:40:47 pm
How to start the bike in a single kick????



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Reply #12 on: January 30, 2010, 01:02:19 am
If my bike doesn't start on the first kick, it means something is wrong. If tuned properly, my bike always starts on the first kick. In that state, it will even start with my hand. That means it'll start on the first punch!! ;D Of course, I don't do that on a regular basis! I've done it a couple of times for a demo.
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Reply #13 on: January 30, 2010, 01:34:36 am
Don't twist the throttle open when you kickstart the bike.
Twisting the throttle open reduces your chances of starting.
It's a common practice, but it's counterproductive.

If the bike is properly tuned, then it should kick right over in one kick.
Leave the throttle alone when kickstarting.
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Reply #14 on: January 31, 2010, 12:43:46 pm
Watch the Vedio of how to kick start bullet  
 
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41igYhb_XDg&feature=related
 
 
 
 
Vedio of cold starting
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVQH_DhTzpA&feature=fvw
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Reply #15 on: February 01, 2010, 08:04:40 pm
I've almost always felt the need to open the throttle very slightly to get the engine to start on the first kick. But, that's when starting cold. Opening the throttle more than a millimetre measured at the throttle grip will ensure a nice kickback.
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Reply #16 on: March 13, 2010, 06:14:02 am
If my bike doesn't start on the first kick, it means something is wrong. If tuned properly, my bike always starts on the first kick. In that state, it will even start with my hand. That means it'll start on the first punch!! ;D

Ya !  Indian woman power proves it -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfrDoZ5qEdU&feature=related

and then there is Susan who does not know how to give up - Never say never !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZReY5ez9-Y

One kick or ten kicks, both enjoyed riding RE !   ;D



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Reply #17 on: March 13, 2010, 06:26:25 pm
Make sure nobody else is watching her.  The more people that are watching the more shy my bike gets, and doesn't want to start.

But seriously, even following directions perfectly, it took me forever to 'become one with my bike.  What once took me about 30 kicks and a hernia takes me about 1-4 now. 


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Reply #18 on: March 13, 2010, 09:16:28 pm
Make sure nobody else is watching her. The more people that are watching the more shy my bike gets, and doesn't want to start.

But seriously, even following directions perfectly, it took me forever to 'become one with my bike.  What once took me about 30 kicks and a hernia takes me about 1-4 now.  

Bullets are kind of shy - Indian lady like.  

But you are one with it - kind of shy.... ;D
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Reply #19 on: March 14, 2010, 12:36:39 pm
Ya !  Indian woman power proves it -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfrDoZ5qEdU&feature=related

and then there is Susan who does not know how to give up - Never say never !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZReY5ez9-Y

One kick or ten kicks, both enjoyed riding RE !   ;D

No kidding!!
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Reply #20 on: March 15, 2010, 04:48:55 pm
Make sure nobody else is watching her.  The more people that are watching the more shy my bike gets, and doesn't want to start.

Ah yes, the Observation Detection Module. It turns out that this component was kept on the AVL engine as well, though I do not know if the new unit construction models retain the ODM. I attempted to disable the ODM in my 2009 AVL, but with no success - it seems that the ODM is an integral part of the design and cannot be removed. Attempts to do so frequently lead to a failure of the nut connecting the handlebars to the seat, though this is generally a non-critical failure, and is easily fixed.