[scoTTy]

just can't find it...  narrowed it down a bit ...  got 2 chocies left...   alll back to original....  ...  the brown wire going into the spot that was intended willl be limated..

subtitled .... wheeeeere's the juicve going???


 and you disconnect the wire coming from everywhere going somewhere


and you stilll have no voltage to the starter....  sigh...  I'm tracing everything.. no blown fuses, misspent wires... I don't get it///  supppiose to work ... vRRRooOm

[1Blackwolf1]

  Have power at the starter relay?  You can jump it there with a wire to see if it rolls over.  My electric start wires on wifey's bike were partially disconnected and thats how I fingered it out.  Will.

[scoTTy]

do you mean take a jumper wire from the battery side to the starter side of the relay , by passing the thumb switch?

[scoTTy]

kinda at my wits end..
the lights work, the signals work. the horn works..
and the starter did work a week ago.

put an ohm meter on the pigtail coming out of the relay .. it jumped to around 8 then settled in at 4.5..

I disconnected the wire going to the starter , put a voltmeter on in, turned the key, pulled the clutch in, hit the starter buttton. no read out at all.

also disconnected the green box and put the black box on as original,,  still nothing..

perhaps the relay went bad, I don't know.

well their is always the afternoon, I'm running late for work

[1Blackwolf1]

Yes sir jump the relay..if you have a remote starter switch from your racing days thats perfect.  Act like its a Ford or AMC.  Will.

[clamp]

Jumping the starter relay is a simple affair of jamming a screw driver between the 2 terminal posts. Try to get it on the nuts or you will damage the thread , there will be lots of sparks n stuff.


   Hmmm,-- gremilins  nothing you can do but keep looking. Wires are often joined internally -especially earth wires.

       I have in the past razor bladed entire looms apart, its a simple job to tape it up and can be quicker that scratching your head with a test lamp.


      Or you could sacrifice a small helpless fury animal in front of the bike at midnight

[scoTTy]

that term earth wires terrify me.. i've known of them , but never experienced them...  hmmmm .  the RE has these   

[1Blackwolf1]

  Earth, ground same thing Scotty.  Any luck chasing down the gremlins?  Will.

[scoTTy]

er ,  i'm still looking... need a brighter flashlight

[REpozer]

I had similar problem. All lights and horn worked fine , no e-start.
It turned out to be the ground wire from the battery at the frame connection ( under my seat).
It looked fine until I unscrewed the wire from the frame .It was rusty, all it needed was some sand paper to clean it up and then dielectric grease.

[1Blackwolf1]

  So you get the problem figured out?  Will.

[scoTTy]

not yet, just got some new stuff from the shop here. decided while I have it all torn apart, I would accessorize a bit

[1Blackwolf1]

  There you go..and you may find the problem at the same time.  Will.

[Tiny Tim]

This sounds for all the world like a sticky solonoid. (a common problem)

As previously advised, short the two large terminals of the solonoid with the ignition turned on and the bike in neutral.

If the starter spins, and the starter button does not have the same effect then the solonoid is stuck / broke. Tapping it with a screwdriver handle sometimes fees things up. Replacement is the best option.

If the starter doesn't spin, then check the battery +ve terminal which is the other end of the cable to the solonoid and also check the frame earth point.

Next, with the meter on ohms and the ignition off, check across the starter terminal and earth to confirm that the starter has not gone.

DO NOT try and jump the starter straight onto the battery. The starter is almost a short circuit and will most likely melt any cable you try and use.

Finally, you mentioned "got 2 chocies left". If you were referring to "chockie strip connectors" then you should try to avoid using these in any automotive environment, especially an Enfield. The vibration will rattle the screws loose and then, it's just a matter of time.

[Jinx]

 I'm no electrical guru by any stretch.
 Check ground condition by taking a omh reading from Batt neg terminal to the engine. Should be about zilch.
 Check Batt. Pos to relay, DC Voltage reading on the Batt. then take a reading to the hot side of the relay, should be the same.
 If these readings are good then you have good Batt. to bike connections.
 Connect Vmeter to starter terminal on relay and ground. Turn on bike and hit the start button, should be 12 ish Volts. If not, take a screwdriver and jump the 2 terminals on the relay. Starter should start. If this is the case then you have a sticking/bad relay. Replace with OEM or a heavy duty Blue Streak relay for a mid 70's Harley.
 If the relay is ok and no voltage to starter then take continuity reading of the starter wire, discnect both ends of the wire, and take the reading. That will tell you if there is a break in the starter wire.

[clamp]

Scotty youve been doing this long enough. Hang some Hush puppies on the mirrors and put it in the shop window as a display.

 
     

[scoTTy]

i just found the main metering rod for the new  flat side carb on the garage floor////  why I wondered is it not in the carb..?  then i remember...  the top where the gas cable goes blew apart.. after I took out the last screw..

 no schematics included .. Have i found everything yet..  I  only thought I was ready to test the electrics

to use it as a display requires .. one a trailer.. which I don't have..  two the back of the truck , but i'm not strong enough to dead lift it 3 or 4 feet;;

My only option is getting it running..  and wondering if i should be looking for a 1/4 in washer somewhere

[baird4444]

I think you've got it Scotty. There should be a clip on the needle but there is only 1 position for it. Just remove the inner part of the slide and drop it down in.
                - Mike