Author Topic: Br. Cabo's "Perla" (Read 5419 times)

BigDon · **on:** June 02, 2009, 07:54:49 pm

I went by Brother Cabo's home today and was introduced to his two wonderful Ladies! His lovely bride and Perla.

An unexpected pleasure was an offer to ride Perla. Cabo told me to "run it like I stole it." Well I did, almost steal it!

Cabo you have one very well sorted RE! Thanks for the test ride. I think I see a 34MM Mukini in my future!

I have had the pleasure of riding two of this forum's pride and joy's, Ace's and now Cabo's. Both gentlemen have been extremely kind and helpfull as I progress thru my RE journey.

What a great forum!

UncleErnie · **Reply #1 on:** June 02, 2009, 08:02:55 pm

This post is useless without
A) pictures
B) ride report. For instance, what did you like about his carbs?

ace.cafe · **Reply #2 on:** June 02, 2009, 08:04:25 pm

BigDon,
I'll bet that was fun!
And a privilege too.

You're becoming the "Official Bullet Test Rider" now!

Cabo Cruz · **Reply #3 on:** June 02, 2009, 08:55:45 pm

Br. Don, you're very kind to Old Brothers like me and equally gracious for your comments about my Ladies -- Graciela and Perla! And, Br. Ace makes an excellent observation about you, Don, by stating: "You're becoming the 'Official Bullet Test Rider' now!"

Now, Br. Ernie, you wrote: "This post is useless without..." I say: Take a deep breath, Brother, and retrospectively read your comment. I would safely bet you might change it to something like:

"This post ~~is useless~~ would be more complete with

A) pictures
B) ride report. For instance, what did you like about his carbs?"

As far as the ride report goes, I will leave it up to Br. Don to objectively share his impressions with all of you.

In any case, Br. E, I can help you with the pictures -- click on the link below, you'll come to PERLA 14 (B&W); and, click on NEXT IMAGE if you wish to see the rest of the 13 shots of Perla.

http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1405

UncleErnie · **Reply #4 on:** June 02, 2009, 09:26:44 pm

My un-tutored self begs forgiveness if I offended anyone.

I shall now press my luck further by going off-topic some;
If your installed that K&N (or whatever it is), why keep the air filter box?

baird4444 · **Reply #5 on:** June 02, 2009, 10:00:24 pm

Quote from: ace.cafe on June 02, 2009, 08:04:25 pm

BigDon,
I'll bet that was fun!
And a privilege too.
You're becoming the "Official Bullet Test Rider" now!

Big Don- b4 you make the move to the 34mm Mikuni; shouldn't
you give the 30mm Flat-side a try? Then you can give a ride report
of each and make a final recommendation.
- Mike

Blue Ridge Wheeltor · **Reply #6 on:** June 02, 2009, 10:23:26 pm

Uncle E posts on one forum I also post on, and two other forums I post on the term "this post is useless without pictures" or "this post is worthless without pictures" is a standard response when someone posts something that would be enhanced with pictures. Sort of the forum's way of saying lets see a picture. In fact, in one forum there is a smiley face holding a sign saying just that as an emoticon (sp?).
So nothing was meant as offensive and I picked it up right away.

Blue Ridge Wheeltor · **Reply #7 on:** June 02, 2009, 10:44:04 pm

ace.cafe · **Reply #8 on:** June 02, 2009, 10:48:29 pm

It's the great carburetor debate!!!!

Believe it or not, there actually are scientific methods to select carburetor size based on engine design parameters.

The worst restriction in the Indian-made Bullet 500 inlet tract(disregarding air filter system) is the 28mm Mikarb. It has the smallest size area of anything in the inlet tract, assuming a fully open intake valve. So, it is apparent that when looking to reduce restriction in the inlet tract, that 28mm Mikarb would be the first to go, and of course the restrictive air filter would get tossed out with it.

How much larger you want to go, depends on how high you plan to rev, how much air this engine can gulp with this port size and valve lift, and how your vacuum metering signal at the carb jet behaves before you get idling instability.

A 30mm will match the airflow cfm that the Bullet 500 inlet tract can flow, in stock form, at the rpms the stock Bullet can reach.
A 32mm will exceed the airflow cfm that the Bullet 500 inlet tract can flow, in stock form, but it will match the port size, so there is theoretically going to be less unwanted turbulence in the port because the air isn't seeing pressure changes from varying diameters of tubes it's trying to flow thru.
A 34mm also exceeds the airflow cfm needed by even a wider margin, but since it then becomes the largest diameter segment of the inlet tract, velocity is slowed over the jet orifice. This can affect metering signal. If it idles well enough for you, then there's nothing wrong with it.

So, there's yer choices.
In reality, you don't see any benefit from the larger carb diameter until your throttle slide position is open far enough to uncover more area than the fully-open smaller carb.

ERC · **Reply #9 on:** June 02, 2009, 11:25:57 pm

Very nice looking bike. How many miles on it now? ERC

Cabo Cruz · **Reply #10 on:** June 02, 2009, 11:31:34 pm

"My un-tutored self begs forgiveness if I offended anyone.

I shall now press my luck further by going off-topic some;
If your installed that K&N (or whatever it is), why keep the air filter box?" UncleErnie

Br. Ernie, firstly, you did not offend me!

Secondly, as you look at the picture (PERLA 9), you will see that the filter is a pancake style K&N one (see the link below). Additionally, I did not keep the stock air box. Br. BigDon did keep it on his bike after making a hole on it to fit a K&N filter inside the box.

Br. Blue, I thank you for the "this post is useless without pictures" explanation. As I wrote above, Br. E did not offend me in the least. And, I liked the emoticons!

Brs. Mike and Ace, I will never know as much as you do about the mechanics part of our beloved Bullets. I can tell you that Perla idles very smoothly and pulls very hard with the 34mm Mikuni carb!

PERLA 9 link:
http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1400

Cabo Cruz · **Reply #11 on:** June 02, 2009, 11:36:03 pm

"Very nice looking bike. How many miles on it now?" ERC

Br. ERC, she has approximately 9,500 on the clock and I thank you very much for your kind comment.

ace.cafe · **Reply #12 on:** June 03, 2009, 12:58:32 am

Quote from: Cabo Cruz on June 02, 2009, 11:31:34 pm

I can tell you that Perla idles very smoothly and pulls very hard with the 34mm Mikuni carb!

That's good Papa Juan! Very good!

One day soon, I too shall have a larger carburetor on my bike than my present 28mm Mikarb!
And on that day, I shall be very happy.

But I can say that it has been alot of fun, and very informative, to try various ways to get more out of the 28mm Mikarb. And these things will be able to be applied later to the larger carb setup.

REpozer · **Reply #13 on:** June 03, 2009, 01:42:28 am

I was goin to stop by Uncle Ernie's house for a test ride but was afraid he would sick a couple mean dogs on me.

BigDon · **Reply #14 on:** June 03, 2009, 02:12:21 am

Quote from: baird4444 on June 02, 2009, 10:00:24 pm

Big Don- b4 you make the move to the 34mm Mikuni; shouldn't
you give the 30mm Flat-side a try? Then you can give a ride report
of each and make a final recommendation.
- Mike

I understand Krusier aka Kevin has the 30mm PKW flatslide. I will pester him till he relents and let's me ride his!

As for the 34mm on Perla it does idle very well and I found no flat spots in its operation. It pulled strongly uphill (and they both can attest I earned my nickname) and the overall impression was of slightly more torque than my 28mm. I did not run it to the extreme of the rpm range as it was not my bike. But my overall impression was of more pep all thru the range I ran.

Br. Cabo do you know what jet sizes you are running I forgot to ask?

Overall from suspension to motor to looks as I stated "a well sorted machine."

By the way it is a "65" and has the shocks someone was asking about a day or so ago. I believe if they are still available when mine need replacing i would be happy with them.

Uncle Ernie no offence taken. To prove it when I take my trip up the Blue Ridge Parkway I hope you will ride some of the way with me.

Sooo...now to start working on Krusier!

UncleErnie · **Reply #15 on:** June 03, 2009, 04:18:39 am

You are one traveling kind of guy! Folks from Georgia -and Alaska- are welcome. A small bit of hamburger will win you a dedicated furry friend for life.. My dog Rosie would love a piece, also.

I've recently discovered 80 from Old Fort up to Mt Mitchell / BRP. Lots of great loops around here.

BigDon · **Reply #16 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:16:03 am

Quote from: UncleErnie on June 03, 2009, 04:18:39 am

You are one traveling kind of guy! Folks from Georgia -and Alaska- are welcome. A small bit of hamburger will win you a dedicated furry friend for life.. My dog Rosie would love a piece, also.

I've recently discovered 80 from Old Fort up to Mt Mitchell / BRP. Lots of great loops around here.

80 is great! Have you done 226 and Alt 226 around Little Switzerland? It is just a little north of 80, south of the Parkway. 226 turns off 221 then a mile up 226 you will see Alt 226 it runs east and north up to and parallels the Parkway to Little Switzerland. If not it is worth your while.

Travel by motorcycle keeps me sane...well some people don't think so!

I will buy Rosie a burger hopefully she will let you share it!

1Blackwolf1 · **Reply #17 on:** June 03, 2009, 07:04:14 am

As not to change the subject line since Perla was found to be in outstanding form how are you doing Brother Cruz? Just checking in post medical procedure. Tell Perla I said hello. Will.

Cabo Cruz · **Reply #18 on:** June 04, 2009, 03:06:39 am

Br. Will, I'm slowly recovering my sight in the right eye -- some days are better than others. Perla's blushing because of all the adulation... and, thanks for asking about me!

1Blackwolf1 · **Reply #19 on:** June 04, 2009, 11:33:27 am

Outstanding!! Hope your recovery is speedy and complete. Believe me I have recovered from my share of procedures and they are never convenient..hope you and the lovely lady are soon back cruising the streets. Will.

ace.cafe · **Reply #20 on:** June 04, 2009, 02:19:45 pm

Quote from: Cabo Cruz on June 04, 2009, 03:06:39 am

Br. Will, I'm slowly recovering my sight in the right eye -- some days are better than others. Perla's blushing because of all the adulation... and, thanks for asking about me!

And let's hope that the days ahead are all better days !

PhilJ · **Reply #21 on:** June 04, 2009, 09:13:20 pm

Cabo,

Hope your well on your way to a complete recovery. And that it was something simple like my cataracts.

Cabo Cruz · **Reply #22 on:** June 08, 2009, 08:01:51 pm

Brs. Will, Ace and Phil, I thank you, I thank you and I thank you!!!

1Blackwolf1 · **Reply #23 on:** June 08, 2009, 08:54:20 pm

Good to hear from you Br. Cruz..expect to be hearing how that lovely lady is stealing more hearts soon. Will.

REpozer · **Reply #24 on:** June 09, 2009, 12:31:03 am

Glad your doing nicly Br.Juan!

Cabo Cruz · **Reply #25 on:** June 09, 2009, 04:01:29 am

Br. Poz -- and all of you who asked about my new, right high beam -- I have turned a corner of sorts... the cloud over my retina is clearing up... I am staring to see better w/o my glasses... so, I'm either not going to need a prescription for my right eye for distance or the prescription for this eye is going to change... I still need the bifocal part of the lenses (both left and right) for close up work... I'm down to one type of eye drops (versus three) for the right eye, four times a day... all in all, things are looking up... my permanent vision should be stable by the time I next visit the doc (May 27)... I hope to get a new prescription for my glasses on that day so that I can put this gig in my rear view mirrors... again, Brothers, I give you my thanks for all the good wishes and the words of encouragement... I am a very lucky man!!!