The holopaw guys were in fact great and we spent a pleasant hour or so with them. They talked me into putting a Ural seat on my avl and I am very happy with it and my butt is even happier. They also sell Urals and a handful of us are thinking of getting Urals and doing an Alaska - through canada - home to MA trip next summer. For anyone in or near fla - go see those holopaw guys - as far as I can tell, their shop is the best thing that I've ever found in FL.