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johnny rocket

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on: February 24, 2009, 02:22:45 am
i have a 2009 ROYAL ENFIELD ELECTRA
which i took from huntingdon beach california to atlanta georgia
i kept the chain well oiled and adjusted but around alabama i  noticed that my rear sprocket was heavily worn almost as if it had not been properly hardened.
 i ordered the two piece set and replaced the sprocket and am now using a heavier chain, if anyone else has had a problem with excessive rear sprocket wear please let me know.
fyi when the new two piece sprocket came in it came with countersunk hardware but i had to have  the holes on the sprocket countersunk  myself. beacause of the ease of machining the replacement sprocket i am sure that i will have similar problems shortly. if anyone is interested i am considering having custom stainless steel sprockets made. also,  the heavier replacement chain that i recieved is not an o ring chain.  i will keep you all posted when i find a quality chain that we can use.
and since the smallest rear sprocket offered by re is the 38 tooth i will be attempting to have a 36 or 34 tooth made for more top end, unless anyone knows of a larger replacement front sprocket.
 
and another thing. is anyone running straight pipes?
if so what size jets are you using?
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Reply #1 on: February 24, 2009, 02:42:13 am
Almost sounds like an alignment problem.    I have about 4k miles on my rear sprocket and it looks fine... 
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Reply #2 on: February 24, 2009, 02:47:32 am
keep my alignment straight.
im pretty meticulous about maintenance as this is the only new bike ive ever had.
so im used to having to tinker.
 i have about eight grand on mine.
no problems till around 7k
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Reply #3 on: February 24, 2009, 03:24:35 am
You really road a brand new Electra from CA to Atlanta, GA?  In one trip?


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Reply #4 on: February 24, 2009, 03:32:36 am
yeah im about to hit savannah in the next few minutes. :)
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Reply #5 on: February 24, 2009, 06:20:19 am
i notice you are in atl. let me know if you wanna meet up for a ride.
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Reply #6 on: February 24, 2009, 06:07:07 pm
     JR, I seldom see a worn RE sprocket.  On The RE, as with all the other bikes I have coming through the shop, excessive chain and sprocket wear boil down to a maintenance issue. The chain is run too tight or too loose or it is mis-aligned, and/ or it is improperly lubed. It is not a quality issue.
     Use a motorcycle chain lube and let it set up for a while before riding. Better is to lube after the ride to give adequate time for set up. Chain lube is a very heavy grease dissolved in a carrier. it goes on thin, seeps into the chain, then the carrier evaporates.
    When adjusting find the tight point of the chain and adjust it there. Chains, even new, are uneven. If you tighten at a loose point it will be too tight elsewhere. This induces extra stress.
     Most people don't lube or adjust nearly often enough. On a trip like that I would lube at the lunch break, and again in the evening, and every time it rains. Check tension every time you lube and adjust as necessary.
     I know it sounds like a pain, but it is cheaper than premature replacement.


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Reply #7 on: February 24, 2009, 06:34:50 pm
if it were a lube or tension issue wouldnt i see evidence on both front and rear sprockets? my front sprocket is in great condition.
i do lube religiously. every time i stop for gas, and i have done five adjustments  in the time ive had the bike ( since late november).
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Reply #8 on: February 24, 2009, 06:49:51 pm
     The rear normally wears more than the front on every bike. I'm sure you did things right. The issue is right for the conditions. On that kind of trip with constant long usage, I would posit that you simply needed more frequency. Also, the proper application of proper chain lube is critical. On that kind of trip I would assume more than 5 adjustments. That being said, this kind of trip is SEVERE use, so you will have accelerated wear compared to someone who was taking shorter trips.
     Also, with the cam adjusters on the RE chain, fine adjustments are impossible.
     I guess the point is that you probably don't need to go through the additional expense and trouble of special manufacture of components. A heavy duty non o-ring chain such as the Tsubaki QR or HSL chains will extend the life of the sprockets also. 


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Reply #9 on: February 24, 2009, 06:56:31 pm
also. how bout them jet sizes?
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Reply #10 on: February 24, 2009, 07:12:25 pm
Thanks.  I've got the bike kinda torn down right now, but I will be up and running by the
time the weather warms up.

i notice you are in atl. let me know if you wanna meet up for a ride.


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Reply #11 on: February 25, 2009, 04:14:28 am
sure thing man.
and if you need a hand turning wrenches just gimme a shout.
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Reply #12 on: February 25, 2009, 06:56:07 pm
How did you manage to get a brand new Bullet in California?

At one time full enclosure chain cases were available if they are still around
that might help. My Dad rode MZ's for years and they had a very neat
rear chain enclosure and I don't think we ever had to replace a chain.


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Reply #13 on: February 25, 2009, 08:47:15 pm
and since the smallest rear sprocket offered by re is the 38 tooth i will be attempting to have a 36 or 34 tooth made for more top end, unless anyone knows of a larger replacement front sprocket.

CMW sells sprockets for the 5 speed from 16 to 22 teeth,
http://store.royalenfieldusa.com/maintenance-repair/transmission/premium-5-speed-countershaft-sprockets
Most Electra's come with a 18 tooth sprocket.
I personally wouldn't go bigger than 20 on one though.
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Reply #14 on: February 26, 2009, 02:18:59 am
Thanks, I appreciate that.

sure thing man.
and if you need a hand turning wrenches just gimme a shout.