[Joe28]

At first I didn't think I need it, but after the sprag went and from what I've been reading, perhaps I do?
What makes this one better?
What motors needs it?
(my Military has the new engine, was made June 18, 2008, (the date was written inside the primary0)).
How come it's free?
What symptom would a bike do to KNOW you needed one?
How do I get one?
Joe
So many questions, so little time!

[UncleErnie]

I'm a day or 2 away from orderng a bike, and I was just about to ask that myself.

[Kevin Mahoney]

The factory has always passed along fixes for free if they think they will help. First the delay circuit, helped some, then the resistors, helped a lot, now the new ignition. If you order a bike, tell you dealer you want to make sure it has one. (This is new enough your dealer may not even know about it, but you faithfull forum watchers usually know things first). If you have an earlier model it is sort of up to you. Not all bikes have sprag issues. In fact most don't, but how do you know if you will or won't? There is no good way to predict this. It defies logic (other than those with loose bushings).
  We are making it available free because it seems to be the best insurance against a sprag failure. Most of you won't need it, but if it were me I would put one in just to be sure. It is an easy half hour install, anyone can so it etc. In spite of us selling old technology bikes, Royal Enfield as a company really does care about it's customers. They have come up with this all on their own and are willing to provide them as a courtesy and as an act of goodwill. As a note, this does not apply to iron barrel bikes which have points ignition. If you want one call us.

[Gromit42]

So how does one go about getting one for free? my bike is an 06 with less that 1000 miles, and more than likely the sprag is what is toast, since the starter is just spinning but not engaging, and most times not even attempting to start. It worked for a while, then stopped. And I can't even kick start it. The plug is new, there is power from the battery, and measures out to what should be enough, but again, nothing happening.

thanks,
gromit and TD

[Tiny Tim]

RE1,

For the benifit of us Electra owners who are not in the Colonies but still may be interested in the "New Ignition", can you supply details of what it is / does and how much we could buy one for please?

[23hp]

Hi Tim

I have contacted my dealer in the UK who hadn´t heard of the Ignition with delay circuit but they are contacting the importer to see if the can obtain one for me.

Will let you know when/if the reply...

[UncleErnie]

By "new ignition", do you mean electronic ignition- or something else?
When I order my bike with a new ignition, is he going to know what I'm talking about?

[REpozer]

CMW, told me it is the TCI box, I haven't received mine yet, but the TCI is located under your seat.

[Tiny Tim]

Hi Tim

I have contacted my dealer in the UK who hadn´t heard of the Ignition with delay circuit but they are contacting the importer to see if the can obtain one for me.

Will let you know when/if the reply...

Watsonian Squire, the UK importer will supply a delay module which holds of the spark for two and a bit seconds. This means that the engine should be "spun up" correctly and should help prevent sprag clutch destruction. It won't help if the engine stalls at super low revs and tries to go backwards as mine did.

This adapted TCI unit is a different fish altogether. I'd like to know what it does?

[REpozer]

TT, I may not have this all correct ,  The new TCI sounds like it is some how shielded from RF frequencies generated by your electric start motor. or it times out while you are starting. Apparently the RF noise could effect spark firing timing and possibly miss fire at the wrong time during E- start, thus slamming the sprag.
So yes, this new TCI will not save you from a loose or faulty sprag if it was a mechanicail problem.

[Kevin Mahoney]

95% of sprag failures are not due to worn sprags. The new ignition has a built in delay that works better than the delay circuit provided previously and also provides some electrical shielding

[Adrian]

Kevin,

do you know if have they taken the opportunity to tweak the advance curve at all, or was the new box just intended to improve reliability? I'm still happily using a Suzuki TCI box on mine, but I'd like to know I'm not missing out on a performance upgrade!

Tim,

RE UK must have you on their Christmas card list by now, is there any chance of you scrounging one and road-testing it for us?

Regards,

Adrian

[Kevin Mahoney]

I would guess with 99% certainty that the advance curves are the same. Tell me about the Suzuki unit.

[Adrian]

Kevin,

I'm running a GS125 TCI box supplied by Rex Caunt Racing here in the UK. This was fitted during my quest to overcome the rev-limiter effect in 5th gear, which it turns out was caused by the stock Electra's over-gearing.  Never mind, it works well with the stock ignition trigger, though it's a larger TCI box than the RE item, plus I've had fun playing with the electrics!

The GS125 box is actually sold as part of a budget electronic ignition kit for classic racers.

http://www.rexcauntracing.com/pages/misc_products.html

Regards,

A.

[Kevin Mahoney]

Thanks Adrian