[suitcasejefferson]

What are people generally paying OTD for the Himalayan? My local dealer has a 2018 priced at $4500, but wants almost $6000 OTD, including a nearly $400 "doc" fee. I told them NO, and walked out. They have my phone number, and have not called me back to negotiate, which sounds to me like they actually expect to get that much. I was pretty disappointed to see an Enfield dealer pull something like this. If I can't find a better deal, I am considering a CSC Cyclone RX3 250 for about $4500 shipped to my door.

[9fingers]

That is absurd and damn greedy. I believe the going rate for freight is $350, at least to NY or NJ dealers, and about $200 for docs is probably more than enough. The Royal Enfield people at the NYC bike show told me to forget about any dealer prep as it is totally prepped by RE and the dealer just uncrates it. He told me to tell the dealer I would take it in the crate and do it myself. In your case, $5100  out the door, plus tax, should be more than sufficient. I ended up getting my C5 from Oklahoma, from a dealer that was dropping the line. Saved over $2,000 and had it shipped to my door for $550.
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[Bilgemaster]

State-by-state average dealer doc fees (as of July 2011): http://www.realcartips.com/newcars/482-documentation-fees-by-state.shtml

Sadly, "Suitcasejefferson's" home state of Arizona is one of the higher ones at $401. Oddly, California ranks right at the bottom with a state-mandated $55. I wouldn't have expected that. They must screw you in some other clever New Age way, like a Chakra Impact Levy or something.

[9fingers]

Can you buy one from another dealer or from CA or wherever? I did shop around for mine, NJ, CT, NY and PA dealers. One wanted $700 for shipping! When I pointed out that he was double what every other dealer wanted he backed down to $350. But because of his greed I would never buy a bike from him. Heck, have you checked Ebay or Cycletrader? There should be tons of them on there, new and some used. The dealer I bought from in Oklahoma charged NO FEES at all, but they really wanted to move the bike. If you have a reasonable total in mind, perhaps if you approach your dealer with $1,000 in cash in your pocket, and show it to them, they would be interested in doing business, especially at the end of the month. Ask to talk to the manager if the sales person is not agreeable. If they don't get reasonable with you then make sure you flame them on any social media that you are on. Heck, I would sign up for Facebook just to tell people what greedy bastards they are at your dealership.
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[9fingers]

Here  is a good used one, almost new, on Cycletrader.
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https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2018-Royal-Enfield-HIMALAYAN-5008033402

[Bilgemaster]

Lemme just pull my spandex Captain Obvious outfit on...needs a little cooking spray in the leggings...And there we go!...

June is a lousy time to be buying a motorcycle, boat, surfboard, bicycle, or anything else "summery", whether new or used. Head back to that dealership in December, and I'll wager they'll be a little more tractable on that out the door number.

[Richard230]

I bought my 2018 Zero 18 months ago in San Francisco and paid an $80 doc fee, plus a state DMV "Electronic Vehicle Registration" charge of $29, a Vehicle license fee of $104, a Registration fee of $119, a Tire recycling fee of $3.50 and a state sales tax of 8.5% (likely more now).   

[suitcasejefferson]

AZ also has a 10% sales tax. But, back in 2013, I bought a new B5 Bullet, msrp of $4999, and got it delivered to my door 100 miles away for $6100. That included tax, title, registration, all other fees, and delivery. But that was before RENA existed. I guess I expected something similar with the Himalayan. Yes I have the extra $400+, but I'm tired of getting ripped off. I was really disappointed, because I went in with the intention of buying right then. I just got back from spending 2 weeks in the Seattle area, and spent the whole time thinking about the new bike I was going to get when I got back home.

[9fingers]

Lemme just pull my spandex Captain Obvious outfit on...needs a little cooking spray in the leggings...And there we go!...

June is a lousy time to be buying a motorcycle, boat, surfboard, bicycle, or anything else "summery", whether new or used. Head back to that dealership in December, and I'll wager they'll be a little more tractable on that out the door number.

Yes, you are generally correct. But there are exceptions to every rule. I just bought my new V Strom 650 and got 30% off. Yes, it was a brand new 2014 leftover, but still, it was a bargain with full hard cases, luggage racks and engine guards. Still, bike dealers do get desperate over the Winter, for obvious reasons. On the other hand, Suitcase might enjoy riding his new bike this Summer. None of us are getting any younger..........well maybe I am.............but you get my point.
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[suitcasejefferson]

Actually no, I would not really be riding it until summer is over. Here in AZ, at least in the Phoenix valley, winter is riding season. It reaches 118 degrees F here in the summer, even the most hardcore riders won't ride in it. That kind of temperature is lethal, and several people die from it every summer. Outdoor workers only work about 3 hours out of an 8 hour day, the rest is spent in the shade drinking water.

[9fingers]

Ok, so the best bike deals are in Summer?
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[suitcasejefferson]

I don't know, but they should be. Almost nobody is out riding now, unless they have no choice. I ride for recreation only. I use a car for everything not fun related. During the winter there are a LOT of people out riding on the weekend, mostly Harleys and sportbikes. You don't see that in the summer. But I doubt there is much of a price difference. Most dealers want MSRP plus a lot of fees. All 4 Japanese brands have also added several hundred $$$ in "destination charges" to their bikes, and the dealers have to pay it, so they have no choice but to pass it on to the customer.

I bought my first new bike in 1980, and for quite a while I was buying a new bike about once a year. The price of new bikes is crazy. RE is one of the few brands that are still affordable. MSRP wise anyway. The others are all Chinese. I have yet to see a used Himalayan on Craigslist, but I would be a bit afraid of buying one. I heard the Himalayan is supposed to be higher quality than the UCE Bullets, but I suspect they still need to be treated carefully during break in.

[mevocgt]

That is absurd and damn greedy. I believe the going rate for freight is $350, at least to NY or NJ dealers, and about $200 for docs is probably more than enough. The Royal Enfield people at the NYC bike show told me to forget about any dealer prep as it is totally prepped by RE and the dealer just uncrates it. He told me to tell the dealer I would take it in the crate and do it myself. In your case, $5100  out the door, plus tax, should be more than sufficient. I ended up getting my C5 from Oklahoma, from a dealer that was dropping the line. Saved over $2,000 and had it shipped to my door for $550.
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In regards to RENA doing the prep....we have to go over the bikes tip to tail and prep them despite that comment.  We have even had to remove RENAs tools from parts of the drivetrain do to their lack of QC...I have removed a c5 or two from the crate, and it is time consuming. Also fyi, RENA charges the dealers the freight and setup the NYC guy is talking about.  Not arguing against the $6000 number being stupid high, but.....A good dealer will still need to QC and prep the bikes, they still come without fluids, and batteries come dry...

[9fingers]

Thanks for the input mevpcgt.
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[Bilgemaster]

I don't know, but they should be. Almost nobody is out riding now, unless they have no choice. I ride for recreation only. I use a car for everything not fun related. During the winter there are a LOT of people out riding on the weekend, mostly Harleys and sportbikes. You don't see that in the summer. But I doubt there is much of a price difference. Most dealers want MSRP plus a lot of fees. All 4 Japanese brands have also added several hundred $$$ in "destination charges" to their bikes, and the dealers have to pay it, so they have no choice but to pass it on to the customer.

I bought my first new bike in 1980, and for quite a while I was buying a new bike about once a year. The price of new bikes is crazy. RE is one of the few brands that are still affordable. MSRP wise anyway. The others are all Chinese. I have yet to see a used Himalayan on Craigslist, but I would be a bit afraid of buying one. I heard the Himalayan is supposed to be higher quality than the UCE Bullets, but I suspect they still need to be treated carefully during break in.

Yeah, on second thought, maybe that whole "seasonality" thing, so reliable elsewhere, doesn't work so great if your climate is like the sunny side of Mercury. I'd forgotten about that drive that one July in the early '90s from Austin to LA and back in a '60 Plymouth Savoy with no AC.