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on: December 01, 2018, 04:48:10 pm
I went through my motorcycle test inventory looking for a test of a Continental GT. No luck. But I did find this 1964 Cycle World magazine test of the Royal Enfield Crusader, which (according to the article) is the basis of the GT which was to be a hopped-up version of the Crusader and was supposed to hit the market the following year.  So I guess it is the next best thing. I submit it for your reading entertainment of how it used to be a couple of years after I first started riding.   ;)
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Reply #1 on: December 01, 2018, 04:48:58 pm
Here are pages 3 and 4 of the article.
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Reply #2 on: December 02, 2018, 04:08:48 pm
Page 2:  "There is nothing in this engines basic specification to excite anyone". ;D

...sounds good.
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Reply #3 on: December 03, 2018, 06:31:32 am
I bought this last week, I'm really enjoying it.


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Reply #4 on: December 03, 2018, 08:13:59 am
That "Turbo Twin" sounds exciting.   ;D
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Reply #5 on: December 03, 2018, 10:33:38 am
Don't get too exited  :)  the name comes from 'turbine smooth' it's a Villiers two stroke twin motor.

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Reply #6 on: December 03, 2018, 02:43:52 pm
There a turbo Twin on ebay over here at the moment, item # 123517860559. More pictures in the listing.





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Reply #7 on: December 03, 2018, 04:27:39 pm
Boy, does that bike's engine remind me of my first motorcycle, a 1963 250cc Yamaha YD3.  It also was a single-carb twin with a very smooth engine, unfortunately it topped out at 70 mph and fouled spark plugs every 30 miles or so.   :(  I replaced it with a 1964 Honda Super Hawk - which was a major improvement in all performance and reliability categories.  :)
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Reply #8 on: December 04, 2018, 10:13:32 pm


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Reply #9 on: December 05, 2018, 08:00:36 am
So how fast was the old GT?  Faster than the new GT?
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Reply #10 on: December 05, 2018, 08:10:16 am
So how fast was the old GT?  Faster than the new GT?

https://www.motorcycleclassics.com/classic-british-motorcycles/classic-royal-enfield-motorcycles/1963-royal-enfield-continental-zmtz17mazhur

If this source can be trusted it did 80mph. Almost as fast a new stock 535 GT, but keep in mind that the horse requirement grows exponentially with speed, it takes only maybe 5 to 6 horses to reach 60 mph.


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Reply #11 on: December 05, 2018, 11:02:52 am
https://www.motorcycleclassics.com/classic-british-motorcycles/classic-royal-enfield-motorcycles/1963-royal-enfield-continental-zmtz17mazhur

If this source can be trusted it did 80mph. Almost as fast a new stock 535 GT, but keep in mind that the horse requirement grows exponentially with speed, it takes only maybe 5 to 6 horses to reach 60 mph.

Well, the 1959 Bullet 350 that the British press tested got up to 88 mph, with a "mean" top speed of 81, according to the road test that I posted yesterday in the Vintage section.  So what do you think of that?   ???  Could we have had a "ringer" there.   ;)
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Reply #12 on: December 05, 2018, 11:13:49 am
Not saying that 88mph on a 1959 stock Bullet 350 is impossible,  but in real life you would likely need to get close to a tornado and keep riding around it - in the correct direction of course.  ;)

Back than it was a competition for every horse even if imaginary. ;D 

My motorcycle magazine says anything above 120hp is of not much use on any public road in no country, I think that could be about correct.
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Reply #13 on: December 05, 2018, 04:30:47 pm
Not saying that 88mph on a 1959 stock Bullet 350 is impossible,  but in real life you would likely need to get close to a tornado and keep riding around it - in the correct direction of course.  ;)

Back than it was a competition for every horse even if imaginary. ;D 

My motorcycle magazine says anything above 120hp is of not much use on any public road in no country, I think that could be about correct.

So you are saying that England was having a tornado during April 1959?  ::) Who knew?   ;D

The way I ride, my 60 hp Triumph works just as well as my 125 hp BMW. It is not how fast you go, but how fast you tell others you go.   ;)
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Reply #14 on: December 06, 2018, 03:19:07 pm
So you are saying that England was having a tornado during April 1959?  ::) Who knew?   ;D

The way I ride, my 60 hp Triumph works just as well as my 125 hp BMW. It is not how fast you go, but how fast you tell others you go.   ;)

Lot of things could have happened during April 1959. About 10 years ago I used to do regularly 60mph on a bicycle and an tornado was not involved.... ;)

If wasn't even 1st of April.
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