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Reply #15 on: November 08, 2017, 07:29:30 pm
I don't think it's to do with a price point. It's just not necessary, modest engine output and low weight are key.
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Reply #16 on: November 08, 2017, 09:22:49 pm
I believe the wieght is 202 kgs or 445 lbs.
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Reply #17 on: November 08, 2017, 09:38:36 pm
Speaking of weight, the information on the Interceptor says the twin weighs just 17 1/4 pounds more than a C5 Classic. 

Based on this a single disk brake should be all right if it is a good brake like a Brimbo knock-off.

The Interceptor's 445 pound dry weight is also 25 pounds less than a Triumph Bonnie's T-100's 470 pound  dry weight so, since its only giving up 6 horsepower to the Triumph (47 vs 54) it ought to preform pretty well.  (That T-100 is a 900cc machine.)
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Reply #18 on: November 09, 2017, 08:24:23 am
The price is leaked to be 6000 USD in India, which is pretty affordable and kinda value for money for the specs, considering the fact that the HD750 is sold at 8500 USD here ..
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Reply #19 on: November 09, 2017, 12:22:19 pm
An Indian work colleague of mine told me my 535 GT sells for half the price in India than we pay in the UK.

If the 650 sells for $6000 equivalent in India that would make it pretty pricey once shipping, dealer profits and 20% VAT in the UK are added.

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Reply #20 on: November 09, 2017, 01:02:48 pm
i'd say when this bike hits Australia -there will be very little change from $12,000 and probably more ;D
the gt is sitting on $9500 and the euro 4 C5 arriving here early next year will be $10,000 or better - I really can't see them giving them away here...LOL


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Reply #21 on: November 09, 2017, 08:29:00 pm
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Reply #22 on: November 09, 2017, 09:12:01 pm
I always wanted to go to Australia!   :o

If they come to the US, it would be fun to go get a peek at a real one!  :)
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Reply #23 on: November 17, 2017, 02:01:05 am
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, but that’s one ugly engine in my opinion.

Why is there no official release from Royal Enfield?

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For me the engine echos the 'power egg' unit design of the BSA 650, but is maybe not as elegantly executed. I like the Norton Commando type silencers. In fact overall I think the Interceptor looks like a mid 1970's British twin - very traditional, but with a few modern(ish) styling cues.  I would certainly like one, in orange.

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Reply #24 on: November 28, 2017, 05:34:15 pm
I don't mind the looks of the engine at all & would like to own one. The engines on the original interceptor had a massive crankcase as well, & looked fine. For the weight, I think single front & rear discs are adequate.
I'd probable change out the huge mufflers for something sportier.
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PS - foto of my original 750 interceptor.
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Reply #25 on: November 28, 2017, 05:36:47 pm
I don't mind the looks of the engine at all & would like to own one. The engines on the original interceptor had a massive crankcase as well, & looked fine. For the weight, I think single front & rear discs are adequate.
I'd probable change out the huge mufflers for something sportier.
Looks like an impressive accomplishment to me....Dear Santa ........
PS - foto of my original 750 interceptor.
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Reply #26 on: December 01, 2017, 12:06:46 pm
There is an interesting article on the new 650 twins in the latest edition of Bike magazine. Apparently it has Bosch EFI; let's hope it's better than the Keihin stuff on the singles. I wonder why they changed? Next month in Bike they are doing a piece on the new R&D centre in Leicestershire, where much of the design work for the twin took place in portakabins until the building was finished. It does appear to be state of the art (rather than Ark....). My guess is that the quality will be a lot more consistent. Also mentioned was a raft of new (unspecified) models that will be compliant with Euro V in 2020; this has to happen because India is introducing B6 (IIRC) then; the days of carbs are ending methinks, but one thing is clear: the home market takes precedence. It would be good if as well as sitting on the bikes and going Ooh! and Ah! you could all pump the RE reps for info, then we'll see if they're singing from the same hymn sheet. :)
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Reply #27 on: December 01, 2017, 01:12:09 pm
IF, in fact, the actual released bikes meet the pre-release published specs, it should be "adequate ". As I have previously stated, it reaches the equivalent of the 1958 Constellation 692cc 2-valve pushrod hemi long stroke  twin with leaky Amal carbs, while the new 650 is employing 4-valves per cylinder, pent roof chamber, SOHC, and short stroke, with EFI to achieve similar results.

I'm pretty okay with the looks of them, and I sort of lean toward the Interceptor, rather than the GT version.  I already have a CGT which I am happy with. I like the flat seat on the new Interceptor.  My opinion about the GT is that it should have a longer "loaf of bread" tank, with the single seat moved back further like the old Ducati 750 Sport.
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Reply #28 on: December 04, 2017, 01:53:14 pm
It’s slightly down on a 1969/70 Bonneville, the ones most Triumph buffs consider to be the best 650 Triumphs. It should be quite nippy and hold together at sustained high speeds if the power to weight ratio is also similar. I also feel that the single seat looks daft sat atop the frame rails - I feel the same about the CGT  too.
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Reply #29 on: December 04, 2017, 04:37:18 pm
I don't mind the looks of the engine at all & would like to own one. The engines on the original interceptor had a massive crankcase as well, & looked fine. For the weight, I think single front & rear discs are adequate.
I'd probable change out the huge mufflers for something sportier.
Looks like an impressive accomplishment to me....Dear Santa ........
PS - foto of my original 750 interceptor.

 Wow, that's a great lookin Intercepter Craig, still got it?
 I don't care for the looks of the tank on the new 650, it's that folded seam on the bottom, looks Japanese.
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