[KD5ITM]

Went to the dealer and bought a filter kit. This time the kit came with zero Rings or copper washers. Is this the new Norm? And of course the guy at the service counter had the deer-in-the-headlights look when I asked him about the O-rings. I sure hate to have to reuse my old o'rings.

[Enfield Pro]

Here is a kit with everything you need:

Oil Change Kit

[Arizoni]

KD
I don't think you have much to worry about when it comes to reusing your O-rings.

Unless they are damaged, they can be reused many times.  Usually, any damage will be done when the component is installed.  Removal of a O-ring sealed component rarely happens.
I guess I should add, never try to remove a O-ring if you plan on reusing it.
Trying to get the things off is the other thing that can damage them.

Not that my experience means much but I changed oil and my oil filter 8 times without replacing the O-rings and they were still sealing fine.
I finally did replace them during the last oil change but my reason for doing this is because I had so many new ones laying around I figured I should use some of them up. 

[KD5ITM]

Here is a kit with everything you need:

Oil Change Kit

25 bucks? I pay Under 12 for mine with all the old rings

[Farmer_John]

25 bucks? I pay Under 12 for mine with all the old rings

Old Chinese (?) proverb; you get what you deserve...

[gizzo]

I dunno....ive paid $12 and $25 and in between. I think theyjustmake up a price on the spot. in any case even at $25 its not going to mean im on survival rations so I just get on with it.

[KD5ITM]

I pay Under 12 for my kits in the past with all the O-rings and even some extra bits not needed. Some consistency from Royal Enfield would be nice. If there's o rings associated with changing the filter then they need to be consistent and put everything in the kit that is needed. Just common sense I would think.

[Richard230]

$25 for an oil filter seems pretty high to me, even compared with similar filter kits sold by BMW for the older "air heads" and is about twice what BMW spin-on filters are sold for. 
There has got to be a huge markup on that filter kit. 

[Jellyroll]

KD, the extra o-rings are for the older 500s and maybe the classic 500(?) Yep, the 5-pack is the most reasonably priced. Now, if this is an old school bike properly broken in and running clean, and isn't just dogged to the point that dirty oil is the usual thing, there is no reason why giving it an oil change without changing the filter can be safely accomplished. I've been keeping close eyeballs to the oil, and with the last filter changes I'm impressed-I backflushed the filters and gotten very minimal 'crapola' out of the paper. Granted the bike only has 3100 miles on it, but I've seen worse out of scooters more gingerly used. The oil/filter change was done on this bike every 300 miles until the last one at 2400 miles. Now the target mileage is going to be every 2100 miles for oil/filter with an oil change at 1000-1100 mile intervals. Of course, driving conditions vary, and the intervals will as well.

[mazdqr]

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Old Chinese (?) proverb; you get what you deserve...

Well if you go by that proverb every time you make a purchase decision then it leads to the false assumption that high priced products always translate to high quality. I think the reputation of the seller or manufacturer is more important.

[KD5ITM]

KD, the extra o-rings are for the older 500s and maybe the classic 500(?) Yep, the 5-pack is the most reasonably priced. Now, if this is an old school bike properly broken in and running clean, and isn't just dogged to the point that dirty oil is the usual thing, there is no reason why giving it an oil change without changing the filter can be safely accomplished. I've been keeping close eyeballs to the oil, and with the last filter changes I'm impressed-I backflushed the filters and gotten very minimal 'crapola' out of the paper. Granted the bike only has 3100 miles on it, but I've seen worse out of scooters more gingerly used. The oil/filter change was done on this bike every 300 miles until the last one at 2400 miles. Now the target mileage is going to be every 2100 miles for oil/filter with an oil change at 1000-1100 mile intervals. Of course, driving conditions vary, and the intervals will as well.

Why would you change the oil without changing the filter? Why go 90% of the way. If you're going to go as far as a change the oil why wouldn't you change the filter. And anyways, it doesn't matter how clean the bike is and how easily it's been written, oil still gets dirty and therefore the filter gets dirty. And living in Houston where it's 95 plus degrees 4 to 5 months out of the Year, doesn't help the oil. In a pinch, if I was on the side of the road and had to change the oil, and all I had was a can of carb cleaner, of course I would spray the filter clean. But sitting in my garage I prefer to do the whole job completely.

[Richard230]

On all of my motorcycles and my car, I change the oil filter during every other oil change and have never had a problem.  But then I do tend to change my oil twice as often as the vehicle manufacturer recommends. So I guess it all works out. 

[Narada]

I know I am stating the obvious but.. $25.00 is 1/4 of $100.00.  I think twice before I pay $25.00 for anything. It all adds up.   I wonder what the manufacturing cost is, or how long it takes for a machine to spit out one filter? 

[gashousegorilla]

  Come on now ? ....  25 bucks for a UCE filter is just nuckin' futs.    That's just gouging.   I prefer to buy local but come on ?  There is a great big internet out there and people ain't stupid.

[longstrokeclassic]

Hitchcocks lean burn oil filters are 6 for £20 (plus vat where applicable @20%) which is fine if you don't have to add postage on top.