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on: November 15, 2015, 10:18:09 pm
Liking the dash, can't make out the gauge next to the fuel though.

http://www.morebikes.co.uk/scoop-pictures-of-finished-enfield-himalayan-appear-showing-finished-bike/

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Reply #1 on: November 16, 2015, 08:39:33 am
Looks like the dash/ headlamp are mounted to that framework that surrounds the front of the tank, making them independent from the forks, which reduces the amount of "wiring twist" by constant steering movement.
I see they are quoting 24bhp, ive seen 30bhp claimed in other reports.
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Reply #2 on: November 16, 2015, 02:24:40 pm
Not exactly making me reach for my checkbook.
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Reply #3 on: November 16, 2015, 03:45:13 pm
 All this talk of the Himalayan is making it harder and harder for me to hold out for the coming twin cylinder.
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Reply #4 on: November 16, 2015, 03:46:25 pm
I'm trying to ignore the looks ACE, and I'm trying not to break my one bike only rule, which has lasted for 2 1/2 years. The concept of a "light weight" of road /general purpose bike is desirable, but a sump guard for my current bike is probably a more sensible option. :)
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Reply #5 on: November 16, 2015, 04:00:17 pm
~ I'm trying not to break my one bike only rule, ~

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Reply #6 on: November 16, 2015, 07:17:01 pm
I was sorely tempted by an Indian Scout for not much money, but it's gone now. Anyway, foot clutch and hand shift in today's traffic?
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Reply #7 on: November 19, 2015, 02:46:36 pm
I am with you Ice, the Himalayan is growing on me.
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Reply #8 on: November 19, 2015, 08:54:22 pm
From October Classic Bike magazine interview with Siddhartha Lal:
"The first new models will all be middleweight, in the 250cc to 750cc bracket. They will be based on two basic platforms. While we need more power than we presently have, we are not going to make supersports with masses of cylinders. We don't believe in technology just for the sake of it, or nudging customers towards bigger and heavier machines"

From that I assume the two platforms will be the Himalayan and the Continental GT.
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Reply #9 on: November 20, 2015, 11:47:05 am
 Many of us are assuming the Himalayan and the as yet unnamed 750cc twin cylinder as seen in spy photos. 

 

 More here> http://www.indiancarsbikes.in/motorcycles/royal-enfield-continental-gt-750-twin-cylinder-engine-117311/
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Reply #10 on: November 20, 2015, 12:38:52 pm
Yep, agreed. The first thing I thought when I saw the new Continental GT was, that would make a bike that already looks good, look a whole lot better with a parallel twin fitted. Sort of like this.
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Reply #11 on: November 20, 2015, 01:14:02 pm
  ;D  8)
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Reply #12 on: December 13, 2015, 10:24:11 am
Here's the latest photo of it:

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Reply #13 on: December 13, 2015, 02:23:52 pm
Two front mudguards???
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Reply #14 on: December 13, 2015, 04:26:52 pm
I LIKE that 2 piece front fender setup, kinda unique.
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Reply #15 on: December 13, 2015, 11:38:28 pm
Even closer to a production model, I personally do not find it attractive. Looks spindly and sort of like something from a high school senior project.
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Reply #16 on: December 14, 2015, 08:00:51 am
I LIKE that 2 piece front fender setup, kinda unique.
A bit of this perhaps?
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Reply #17 on: December 14, 2015, 01:58:22 pm
A bit of this perhaps?
Ha!
I never noticed that before.
Probably because it hurts my eyes to look at it.
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Reply #18 on: December 14, 2015, 03:50:14 pm
A bit of this perhaps?

I curse BMW for starting this whole mess way back in 80-81. How these things have not only survived, but flourished is testament to how gullible we as consumers are.
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Reply #19 on: December 14, 2015, 07:00:18 pm
I curse BMW for starting this whole mess way back in 80-81. How these things have not only survived, but flourished is testament to how gullible others are as consumers. :) :) ;)
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Reply #20 on: December 16, 2015, 09:42:33 am
I think the new Enfield is too similar in price and looks to the bikes coming out of China to be able to take a chunk out of the mid-size market outside of India.

The current RE line-up is unique whereas the Himalayan appears to be like every other mid-sized trail bike appearing on the market.

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Reply #21 on: December 16, 2015, 01:46:41 pm
I think the make or break for a lot of these bikes is the spares supply, and after sales back up. I've never had any problems with parts for the old iron barrel bikes, and I can't comment on the availability for the UCE, because so far I haven't required anything, yet. From reading a lot of the posts on here I know some of you have had varying supply difficulties. You can have the best motorcycle in the world, but it soon becomes useless if you can't get the bits to keep it going. I like many of my acquaintances wouldn't touch anything Chinese, the polite reasons being, lackof or zero parts, appaling quality, and importers that are here today gone tomorrow, that have just been in for a fast buck. So as far as I'm concerned the Chinese manufacturers have shit in their own nest, but then someone without experience might be taken in by something that LOOK'S business like and shiny, and then there are always those who will buy because it's cheap. My local RE dealer is very good, they tried Chinese bikes, and to the best of my knowledge, they all went back. It is not uncommon to see signs at some repair shops stating "We do not repair,service or supply parts for Chinese motorcycles"  Where every $ or £ is a prisoner, there is a good and justifiable reason for such signs. I can't wait till I get a test ride of the Himalayan, early next year I hope. :-\
Incidentally the Chinese are capable of making high quality mechanical wrist watches, I've got some from the 1960's , why can they not do the same with their motorcycles.

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Reply #22 on: December 16, 2015, 03:50:38 pm
I think the new Enfield is too similar in price and looks to the bikes coming out of China to be able to take a chunk out of the mid-size market outside of India.

The current RE line-up is unique whereas the Himalayan appears to be like every other mid-sized trail bike appearing on the market.

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It is because in order to become a big volume seller, you MUST sell the same mass market porridge as the other makers. That's what the public expects.
So, there you have it.

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Reply #23 on: December 16, 2015, 07:21:38 pm
It is because in order to become a big volume seller, you MUST sell the same mass market porridge as the other makers. That's what the public expects.
So, there you have it.
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 The Japanese companies are marketing experts who happen to make motorcycles. They have been so successful at it, that any competitor who wants to stay in business has to play catchup. The Himalayan is a product of this, and also a product of the ever strangling bureaucratic nonsense that controls us more and more. When Yamaha released the SR500 all those years ago there was the usual sales hype, and it had a super new carburetor. I repaired one. The schematic for the carb showed in the region of 130+ parts, for a single cylinder bike. I put the article in the bin and replaced with a MK1 Amal Concentric, bike ran better problem solved. But where was the necessity for the carb that was on it in the first place, when one with far lesser parts did a better job. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you would refer to this ploy as " bullshit " I refer to it as having " stour blawn up ma erse" it means the same thing, but there is a huge majority of sheep out there who believe the hype. In defense of Japanese bikes, they manufacture something that I have never had any respect for, but you can run them all year round, with infrequent cleaning, and maintenance and get away with it. Honda's "Plastic maggot" cx500 was the dispatchers favorite, but they all had Norton's for the weekend. I have the hope that the Himalayan, might fill this gap, but I won't know until I've seen it and tried it. I've read all the various posts on here regarding fault finding on the uce fuel system, and it has been very interesting, but should I decide to make any long trips, then it's a carburetor for me. I used to carry a spare Mikarb on my old bike on long trips in the wilderness, I only had to use it once, but it was good insurance. I bought it new of ebay for about $35. How much would I have to spend for carrying the spares should I suffer an efi problem? Current U.K. price for a fuel injector is $147 U.S. Some of us don't think, and carry on. I deeply resent being forced into a corner by a collaboration of politicians, manufacturers, and insurance companies. The frightening thing that raises its head every now and then in the U.K. press, is regulations that will effectively outlaw those who wish to, from repairing their own bikes. Germany has " type approval" and anti pollution laws which apparently forbids you from running on German roads with a Scott oiler fitted to your bike. Please someone tell me this is wrong. Phew, I'll sit down now.
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Reply #24 on: December 16, 2015, 10:24:54 pm
I curse BMW for starting this whole mess way back in 80-81. How these things have not only survived, but flourished is testament to how gullible we as consumers are.


You should be cursing Suzuki, not BMW.  The Suzuki DR Big (1988) was the first production bike with a beak.





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Reply #25 on: December 16, 2015, 10:33:04 pm

You should be cursing Suzuki, not BMW.  The Suzuki DR Big (1988) was the first production bike with a beak.





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Sorry, I just had to. :)
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Reply #26 on: December 16, 2015, 10:42:49 pm
I stand corrected!   :o


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Reply #27 on: January 11, 2016, 03:23:43 pm
Here's the latest pictures of it:



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Reply #28 on: January 13, 2016, 01:37:34 am
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Reply #29 on: January 21, 2016, 08:02:45 pm
Pics, videos etc .....

http://royalenfield.com/motorcycles/himalayan/

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Reply #30 on: January 21, 2016, 10:16:48 pm
Thanks for posting, I agree with the 25hp not allowing novices to get into a mess + the Harris input has to be positive.
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Reply #31 on: January 21, 2016, 10:58:57 pm
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Reply #32 on: January 21, 2016, 11:36:20 pm
Quote " The concept of the motorcycle has been around for decades, and it's finally making its appearance on the world stage" Oh really? and then we are told how bad the bike could be.
#drivel. Ignore this buffoonery.
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Reply #33 on: January 21, 2016, 11:43:20 pm
It looks pretty good in black.
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Reply #34 on: January 22, 2016, 01:54:38 pm
"the press bike had bits falling off of it after 4000 miles"

Really?
They never heard of Loc-Tite?

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Reply #35 on: January 25, 2016, 11:05:50 am
RideApart discovers the Himalayan: 

https://rideapart.com/articles/royal-enfield-himalayan-getting-adv-market



"the press bike had bits falling off of it after 4000 miles"

Really?
They never heard of Loc-Tite?

Piss poor reporting.

I agree.  I swear that article was written by a teenager having hormonal mood swings.  He goes from:

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Aesthetically, the Himalayan looks pretty sweet to us. But we love old classic-looking bikes, and this looks like a dirt bike and a cafe racer got busy and had a baby.

To this in the very next line:

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Like anyone that works for the company, Royal Enfield CEO Siddhartha Lal sings the Himalayan’s praises from the mountain top. You can read his full write-up of the bike here, but again, take it with a grain of salt.

But my favorite:

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If this bike sees any kind of dirt in the Americas, it's hopefully built better than the GT. It’s definitely going to need to be robust enough to handle the punishment we've seen American ADV riders put on their bikes, but then again, we're not even sure this bike should or will be marketed to what we call "the ADV community." This bike just happens to fall into that class or perhaps "ADV-lite"

Apparently this writer has never seen any videos of the trails in the Himalayan Mountains.  I've ridden some gnarly trails here in Colorado, but some of those videos from India take my breath away just watching them.

Anyway, the final form looks great and from Sidd's write up, it sounds very promising.  It looks like they really put the bike thru it's paces before they brought something to the table.  This Himalayan just might persuade me to buy a new bike in the future instead of the used DRZ I've been wanting. 

And I REALLY like how the built the frame around/into an integrated side case mount in the rear.  AND the rack system on the tank for auxiliary fuel and water storage.  That really appeals to me as it would make this bike perfect for camping with.  Excited to see what the price point will be.
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Reply #36 on: January 29, 2016, 10:02:20 pm
Bike Bandit wonders how well the Himalayan will do in the U.S. market.

http://www.bikebandit.com/blog/post/royal-enfield-himalayan
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Reply #37 on: January 30, 2016, 01:01:22 pm
It's growing on me.  :)
I, too am curious what the price point will be here.
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Reply #38 on: January 30, 2016, 01:24:29 pm
Bike Bandit wonders how well the Himalayan will do in the U.S. market.

http://www.bikebandit.com/blog/post/royal-enfield-himalayan

If there truly was a write up on the Himalayan that you could take with a grain of salt, it would be a write up from Bike Bandit.  As much as I like ordering parts from them, they don't even sell Enfield parts.  So seriously, what the hell would they know of a bike they don't even support?  You might as well have Home Depot write the report.
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Reply #39 on: January 30, 2016, 02:50:41 pm
If there truly was a write up on the Himalayan that you could take with a grain of salt, it would be a write up from Bike Bandit.  As much as I like ordering parts from them, they don't even sell Enfield parts.  So seriously, what the hell would they know of a bike they don't even support?  You might as well have Home Depot write the report.

I take everything I read on the internet with a "grain of salt".    ;)
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Reply #40 on: January 30, 2016, 05:31:42 pm
Less than three days to launch according to RE's Twitter page.
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