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FastEddy

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on: November 15, 2015, 08:51:53 pm
Do the 4 nuts on top of the rockers need to be torqued down or just snug them down?2000 Model iron head 500 Bullet.Thanks


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Reply #1 on: November 15, 2015, 10:37:00 pm
Yes, they need to be torqued but the torque value is below the recommendations of the repair manual or the values I think Snydel (?) recommends.

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Reply #2 on: November 15, 2015, 10:54:52 pm
I think it's 20 ft/lbs.
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Reply #3 on: November 15, 2015, 11:04:36 pm


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Reply #4 on: November 15, 2015, 11:16:14 pm
HOLD IT. if you are talking of the rocker blocks (3/16'rocker bearing stud nuts). they are only 5ft/lb
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Reply #5 on: November 15, 2015, 11:31:59 pm
HOLD IT. if you are talking of the rocker blocks (3/16'rocker bearing stud nuts). they are only 5ft/lb
Brain fart! I was thinking of the head studs themselves.
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Reply #6 on: November 15, 2015, 11:34:31 pm
You are right solg

Ace.cafe says to use 5 foot pounds of torque on those rocker arm block studs.

https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php/topic,20898.msg255278.html#msg255278
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Reply #7 on: November 15, 2015, 11:39:49 pm
If you are talking about the rocker block stud nuts of an Iron Barrel engine, the torque chart on Pg. 100 of the Super Factory Service Manual call for 112 in-lb./ 10 ft-lb
 
 I and others have had the studs pull from the head before reaching the torque value as listed.

 Many now use 5 to 9 ft-lb.
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Reply #8 on: November 15, 2015, 11:46:46 pm
For those thinking that only 5 lb/ft (60 lb/in) is not much, that amount of torque on a dry 3/16" stud will create a clamping force of about 1,500 pounds.
With 4 studs in each block, the total clamping load on the block will be over 6,000 pounds !!!

That's more than enough to resist the pressure from the valve spring and any inertia that might be involved with the moving parts.
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Reply #9 on: November 15, 2015, 11:52:52 pm
Yellow circle - 20ft/lb
Red circle - 5ft/lb
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Reply #10 on: November 15, 2015, 11:56:22 pm
Ill go with the 5ft/lbs!Thank you


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Reply #11 on: November 16, 2015, 12:00:59 am
  I have had no problems with stud nuts vibrating loose at the reduced torque value and don't recall anyone else here having a problem either.
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