Author Topic: Starter problem of '09 EFI Classic  (Read 12284 times)

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Otto_Ing

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Reply #30 on: June 02, 2015, 09:31:21 pm
Interesting!....Experience beats Logic ;D
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Reply #31 on: June 02, 2015, 10:05:42 pm
Nothing.
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Reply #32 on: June 03, 2015, 12:02:13 am
How low was the voltage?  I'd keep an eye on it.  If it was very low the battery might be starting to fail.  If it's on the edge a good charge will get it going but it won't stay up. Just keep tabs on it for a bit. 

Modern bikes charge pretty well, older ones don't.  The RE can be borderline so it's worth keeping an eye on and using a trickle charger if your bike or riding habits don't keep it topped up.

Glad you're sorted and running again :)

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Reply #33 on: June 03, 2015, 12:24:17 am
In his first post he said he bought a new battery, so hopefully it's not going bad just yet!


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Reply #34 on: June 03, 2015, 03:57:38 am
yeah, battery is one week old Yuasa YTX14AHL-BS. I'm going to check voltages every now and then.


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Reply #35 on: June 03, 2015, 06:02:12 am
yeah, battery is one week old Yuasa YTX14AHL-BS. I'm going to check voltages every now and then.
Your best bet is to put it on a battery tender once a week, it will last you a long time and be reliable as well.
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Reply #36 on: June 03, 2015, 06:04:15 am


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Reply #37 on: June 03, 2015, 09:23:31 am
Nothing.

Couldn't have put it better myself!   :)
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Reply #38 on: June 03, 2015, 06:06:11 pm
Out of interest, I would love to get to the bottom of this weird behaviour of the starter sprags, which has been reported so many times.

I insisted that if the sprag EVER slipped it meant it was on its way to failure, even if it works again with a fully charged battery.  Arizoni made me realise I was wrong, and that the lubricant (viscosity, additives, etc) is most likely an important factor, too.

As Iluap says, these sprags should NEVER slip in service, and certainly they aren't made in such a way that they must be spun above a certain speed before the drive engages.

This makes me think that the sprag is somehow not fully happy in the Bullet engine.  Built for a different type of lubricant, maybe?  Driven from the wrong "end", so to speak?

Does anyone have some more knowledge on this?  I certainly am puzzled and would love to learn more.
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Reply #39 on: June 03, 2015, 07:35:22 pm
Does anyone have some more knowledge on this?  I certainly am puzzled and would love to learn more.

+1, i see if i can find an expert, certainly interesting phenomena.


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Reply #40 on: June 03, 2015, 08:08:51 pm
The sprag clutch in the older Iron and AVL Bullets was the sprag from the torque converter in a Borg Warner automatic transmission. It was intended to be run in a bath of ATF(automatic transmission fluid) of the Dexron/Mercon type.
I don't know if the sprag in the UCE is the same, or different, or what the original application(if other) was intended to be.
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