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I was just reviewing the manual, planning out future oil changes, when I started to realize just what was being required. According to the manual, I'm supposed to change the oil at 500Km or just over 300 miles. After that, I'm only supposed to inspect the oil and filter at 3000Km or 1800 miles, then replace at 6000Km or around 3700 miles.

That really doesn't sound right. Has anyone followed this and not had any issues?
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Reply #1 on: June 03, 2014, 06:27:42 pm
that's what the intervals are. stick with that while under warranty and document service performed, keep receipts to avoid headaches.
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Reply #2 on: June 03, 2014, 06:58:35 pm
It's part of the break in process.  It is to remove any metal or silicone particles that may be circulating in the oil associated with a brand new motor.  If you don't follow the procedure you risk damaging bearings and other internal moving parts.

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Reply #3 on: June 03, 2014, 07:21:01 pm
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You are reading the book correctly if your owners manual is like mine.
The oil and filter gets changed @ 300 miles.
After this initial oil change, the oil and filter get changed @ 3,750, 7,500,11,250, 15,000 and 18,750 miles.

Of course, there's nothing wrong with changing the oil and filter more often if it makes you feel better.
I changed the oil and filter at 280 and 950miles and then every scheduled maintenance distance after that. :o
  I figure it's cheap insurance to make sure my engine has better than average care. :)
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Reply #4 on: June 03, 2014, 08:02:28 pm
Thanks everyone. I'm going to hit 300 miles by this weekend. I'm just waiting for my replacement filter to arrive. Which is something else I'm concerned about. If I change the oil and clean the screen, can I keep using my current oil filter until the new one arrives?
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Reply #5 on: June 03, 2014, 08:08:29 pm
Of all the oil changes the first 300 mile is the most important one.

Not only can you expect to see a lot of metal fragments in the screen and on the magnets that are on the oil drain plug and the pump inlet screen retaining plate but the oil filter will be almost filled with them.

Even so, I would guess the filter will not be totally plugged and will do its job until your new filter arrives.  Just don't forget or put off changing the filter as soon as you can.
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Reply #6 on: June 03, 2014, 09:54:58 pm
If the filters are still like the old gauze style, you can clean it with gasoline and let it dry for an hour in the sun.

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Reply #7 on: June 03, 2014, 11:11:23 pm
The UCE oil filters are not like the old wad of guaze style filters.
They are the corrugated paper element in a perforated metal can style.

I would strongly say that no attempt to clean them should be done.
The likelihood of washing fine metal filings out of the inside of the filter into the cleaning solution is very high and if the filings/chips are floating around in the solution, they can be deposited on the outside of the paper element.
If this happens, as soon as the engine starts these filings/chips will be washed downstream with the oil into the bearings, hydraulic valve lifters and gears.
 
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Reply #8 on: June 03, 2014, 11:13:44 pm
If the filters are still like the old gauze style, you can clean it with gasoline and let it dry for an hour in the sun.

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Reply #9 on: June 04, 2014, 12:45:52 am
I changed mine at 300, 600, 1200, and 2000 miles. The next oil change will be done at 3750, and I will follow the schedule after that. All those oil changes at the beginning were to get rid of as much foreign debris as possible. Even so, I just know some of it got into places where it didn't belong. I wish they would use more modern manufacturing techniques to build these bikes, but I've seen where that can lead. You might wind up with a Honda. In a perfect world, you could have a bike with the reliability of a Honda, but the looks and all the character of a RE. Nobody seems interested in building such a bike.
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Reply #10 on: June 05, 2014, 03:43:16 am
Hi Guys - as a newbie wanting to do the right thing for my new C5, I was looking at buying in a batch of filters, but the pic from Scottie is suggested on sites as for the Electra & Leanburn, whilst for mine it has a more "agricultural" look being a tube  with a rag inside and a couple of seals !!! Which ?
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Reply #11 on: June 05, 2014, 06:00:37 am
If your Royal Enfield was made after 2009 you need to buy the filter which is a perforated metal sleeve with a corrugated paper element inside of it.  Both ends of this filter are closed with a metal cap with a hole in the center of it.  It does not look like a tube with a rag inside it.
The B5, C5, G5 and GT all use the same oil filter.

http://nfieldgear.com/enfield-store/5-pack-oil-change-kit.html
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Reply #12 on: June 05, 2014, 09:55:37 am
If your Royal Enfield was made after 2009 you need to buy the filter which is a perforated metal sleeve with a corrugated paper element inside of it.  Both ends of this filter are closed with a metal cap with a hole in the center of it.  It does not look like a tube with a rag inside it.

Like the pic two posts up...  ;)


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Reply #13 on: June 05, 2014, 10:05:46 pm
I changed mine at 1000 miles and then started on the 3700 mile schedule. Worked great for me. Oil consumption stayed nil. Mobil 1 V-Twin
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Reply #14 on: June 05, 2014, 11:22:15 pm
I changed mine at 1000 miles and then started on the 3700 mile schedule. Worked great for me. Oil consumption stayed nil. Mobil 1 V-Twin
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