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FastDoc

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on: May 16, 2014, 05:26:54 pm
I don't understand which is which.

I understand that the 2011 Classic Chrome 500 I'm looking at is a C5. So I assume the Military is as well. What other C5's are there and what is a G5? Where does the Electra fit in? I understand the Continental GT is it's own animal, but does it have a -5 (or 535) designation? What is a 65?

Once I understand these things it will help me understand other people's bikes and posts.

Thanks for the help with my newbie question.

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Reply #1 on: May 16, 2014, 05:36:23 pm
http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/G5Deluxe/

Click on the drop down menu that says 'BIKES'. It will tell you all you need to know.

The electra (AVL engine in the G5 frame in the US)is out of production. The G5 is called electra in Europe.


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Reply #2 on: May 16, 2014, 06:06:08 pm
RE has made many models over the years, often mixing and matching slightly different bits.  Some bikes have fender struts front and rear, some only on one end, chrome bits or not, and every one gets its own name.  Complicate that with the fact that the US gets different names than other markets.

The 65 was a model from a few years back.

For the current UCE models there are only 4 and they are easy to tell apart.

The Continental looks like a cafe racer and is bright red.  It has a dual down tube frame and a 535cc engine.  All the other bikes have a 500.

The G5 has no fender stays and a dual seat. 

The B5 has fender stays and a dual seat.  The rear fender stays are squarish. 

The C5 has a solo seat and fender stays front and rear, the rear stays are round instead of square. 

'Deluxe' on any model means chrome bits, notably both fenders and the tank in a chrome/paint combo.  Military these days is a C5 but was made all through the years out of many models.  I think there are a handful of G5 UCE Militaries in the US from the first year of the UCE but I could be mistaken. 

While the frames of the C5, G5, and B5 look similar they are all slightly different, as are other parts like handlebars, etc.

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Reply #3 on: May 16, 2014, 06:26:00 pm
Thanks guys.

So they all (except the GT have the SAME engines, frames, suspension, forks, wheel sizes, and brakes) Just differences in cosmetics and seats?
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Reply #4 on: May 16, 2014, 06:29:56 pm
C5 G5 and B5 Visual
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Reply #5 on: May 16, 2014, 06:33:04 pm
C5, G5, B5 - same engine, lots of other stuff subtly different.  Every one of these models has a different frame, though you'd need a tape measure to prove it.  The G5 has had one fork for it's whole production run, and it's the closest to the older models.  The C5 had it's own fork, and that was recently changed to a new version with straight lower legs instead of a leading axle.  I've seen at least two different forks on the B5, not sure if it shares bits with the other bikes but I suspect it does.  The brakes are all the same on these three.

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Reply #6 on: May 16, 2014, 06:40:05 pm
Thanks guys.

So they all (except the GT have the SAME engines, frames, suspension, forks, wheel sizes, and brakes) Just differences in cosmetics and seats?
THE G5 has 19" wheels front & rear, & a bench seat. I have a 2010 G5 Deluxe, & like its looks & traditional British handling characteristics best. Hitchcocks offers a 1950's traditional spring solo & passenger pillion kit for the G5, if you prefer it to the bench seat.
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Reply #7 on: May 16, 2014, 07:48:44 pm
There are a lot of little differences, even changes as the model years progressed.
Very similar, but not exactly "same" in all respects.


The Sixty-5 is a discontinued model of the Iron Barrel vintage type.
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Reply #8 on: May 16, 2014, 11:27:51 pm
The B5 also has 19" wheels and there is a Military version. The C5s had 18" wheels on both ends originally with a leading link fork, but in mid 2012 changed to a 19" front wheel and straight forks.
The G5 was the UCE version of the Electra with the AVL engine which was actually designed and produced in Germany. It was kind of an interim engine that was the forerunner to the UCE. It has a different appearance to the Iron Barrel engines that were the original engines from RE built in India. The Sixty-5 was a model that promoted 50 years of production and a new 5-speed gearbox circa 94-'95.
The B-5 is built with the original 350 frame. The C5 frame was built specifically for the UCE.
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Reply #9 on: May 16, 2014, 11:31:14 pm
No wonder why I was confused, but now I'm getting a better idea.
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2004 Ducati ST4S-ABS
2007 Honda Gold Wing 1800
2009 Kawasaki KLX250S Dualsport
1998 Yamaha YZ400F racebike converted to Dualsport
2011 Royal Enfield C5 Classic Chrome

Other stuff:

2002 Maule airplane
1996 Corvette
1992 Ranger 4X4


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Reply #10 on: May 17, 2014, 04:30:50 am
My 2012 Bullet C5 Deluxe "Desert Storm", I am told, is "deluxe" because it features the re-worked front forks (axle point in-line with tubes instead of in front) and 19" front wheel.


That's what my dealer told me anyway. . .


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Reply #11 on: May 17, 2014, 05:30:16 am
I think the first round if C5s with the straight forks and 19" front wheels were called 'Specials' or something like that, then that just became the default configuration for the C5.


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Reply #12 on: May 17, 2014, 06:19:10 am
Yes the C5 Special became standard as now all C5 models have that redesigned fork and such up front. This was to eliminate wobble which was pronounced on some early C5.

I have a 2011 G5 and I love it. I got it because it just fit me a bit better than the C5. I also really like the dual seat on the G5. The G5 in the US is now only available in the Deluxe Chrome Edition. However I suspect this may be the last model year for the G5. The Bullet Electra is the closet bike on royalenfield.com for sale in India to the G5. But if you look closely you will see that the frame is slightly different. Also, the covers on the side are different as well. There number of models in the Bullet range is now smaller.

The Classic Range is basically the C5 variants. The indian models are virtually identical with some minor modifications for the US ones to meet DOT requirements. Also all UCE bikes in the US have Oxygen Sensors many in India do not. Also, the Bullet 500 in India is the B5 here. The Bullet 500 in India is the only UCE bike RE makes that has a carburetor.

Also, none of the 350 CC bikes are imported to the United States. The Thunderbird is not imported to the US but is to some other markets generally under a different name. The Thunderbird name for motorcycles is a trademark to Triumph in many countries but notably not in India.