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on: March 11, 2014, 09:18:52 pm
so the exhaust note has been getting louder, occasional a backfire, and yesterday I noticed heavy carbon on the rear break pedal...  I've never done exhaust any suggestions for a CHEAP replacement?
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Reply #1 on: March 11, 2014, 09:20:02 pm
shot of end of header
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Reply #2 on: March 11, 2014, 09:24:06 pm
Emgo makes lots of mufflers that will fit for around $70.  I have the reverse cone.  It fits, is way lighter, and sounds just about stock.  There are plenty of others that will fit too.  The chrome is pretty good but will go funny colors if it's dirty when  you first start the bike.  Make sure it's clean.



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Reply #3 on: March 11, 2014, 09:30:34 pm
so...  what are going to be my biggest issues "slipping" an Emgo on, and how much damage (if any) will I be causing riding without a muffler?  The RE is my ONLY for of transportation...
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Reply #4 on: March 11, 2014, 09:55:02 pm
I don't know if the bike will run well without a muffler.  There may be flat spots in the RPM range.  It will certainly be loud as hell. 

Make sure you get a muffler that is big enough to fit over the header, some are too small.  Make sure you get one with the reducing collars.  Most come with them but some don't.  If it doesn't mention it then buy them separately for about $7.  Last, get some Permatex muffler paste.  Assemble dry and make sure it fits, then take it apart and put it together with some paste to seal any small leaks.  Clean off any mess right away so it doesn't harden.  Let it set overnight and you're all set.  It's really quite easy.

https://www.denniskirk.com/emgo/mufflers-and-systems

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Reply #5 on: March 11, 2014, 10:30:12 pm
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If you know anyone with a Harley, ask them if they still have their old silencer.  Tell them you'll buy them a case of beer for it.  (That should get their attention.)

Here is a picture of my G5 with a Harley Sportster silencer on it.
The inlet for it is just slightly larger than the exhaust pipe on the RE so it will need a piece of 1/16" thick sheet metal rolled into a sleeve to seal up the gap.  This sleeve allows the existing RE clamp to work fine.
You will also need some sort of strap to bolt the silencer to the frame.
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Reply #6 on: March 11, 2014, 11:58:30 pm
just came back from the store, had to add ear plugs to the cart...  yep it's crazy loud and barky didn't notice any flat spots...  on a side note my new gloves were fantastic...
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Reply #7 on: March 12, 2014, 12:35:19 am
If it's FI it will run a lot better with an open pipe than a carbed engine will. A carb cannot be tuned to operate over such a wide range of backpressures. But it is still not a good idea.

I have a B5, and everybody tells me I should replace the stock muffler. I actually like the look of the huge muffler. But at some point it will probably need replacing. RE makes different exhaust systems, but I can't find anything for the B5. I was under the impression that exhaust systems from all the UCE FI engines would fit, including the C5 model. But that is apparently not the case. You have to stay with stock, or rig an aftermarket muffler. It seems like there are about a zillion accessories for the C models, and almost nothing for the B5, not that it really needs much, I like it just the way it is.
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Reply #8 on: March 12, 2014, 01:07:45 am
Most of the aftermarket silencers will fit the B5 as well. I am confident that the header pipe/exhaust combo are the same for each variant, i.e. C5, B5, G5.

You can opt for the EFI silencer that Hitchcocks sells, or the EFI silencer that CMW provides too. They are basically the same. I have one on my B5. Do a quick search on the forum regarding 'EFI silencer' and countless topics come up.

For reference, have a look at the following -

- http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,14223.0.html
- http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,14958.0.html
- http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,14714.0.html
- http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,16201.0.html
- http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,8515.msg95390.html#msg95390
- http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,17093.0.html
- http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,16325.0.html

Regarding the bluing/blueing of the pipe around the oxygen sensor (at the back) you highlighted in the other topic, it is perfectly normal. Here is my Bullet 500 after 11k miles (approx) -



Of course you can't see in the above pic, but the area around my bike's oxygen sensor is quite blue as well. But it is mostly out of sight. Nothing to worry.
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Reply #9 on: March 12, 2014, 01:10:01 am
I absolutely love my EMGO Cocktail shakers!  Well worth the money and they sound amazing.



And if you want to know how good they sound.......    ;D  ;D  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgAGViibdCE

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Reply #10 on: March 12, 2014, 01:19:32 am
JVS, Nice compilation!

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The HD softail muffler works really well if you want one with a cat.....it is also fairly small in size and reasonably quiet.

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Reply #11 on: March 12, 2014, 02:41:10 am
They do sound great scottie!  Are they very loud?


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Reply #12 on: March 12, 2014, 02:58:54 am
They were loudish, but not terrible when I had the baffles in (the baffles were installed in the video).  But I lost a baffle one day on a ride and the bike started running weird and sounding funking so I eased it home, realized the problem and haven't gotten around to replacing them.  Now they bark pretty damn good.  Still not as bad as a HD with straight pipes, but the Blackhawk sounds mean as shit now so I might just leave them out.  I'm jetted for it, so.

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Reply #13 on: March 12, 2014, 03:09:39 am
I've seen the baffle on those and figured they'd be murder on your ears, but they don't really sound too bad.  I may get one sometime.

Suitcasejefferson, the stock systems are all the same.  The reason a replacements may fit one bike but not another is routing.  If they're not a straight back, or even if they are, they may hit a footpeg or fender strut on one model that's not on another.

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Reply #14 on: March 12, 2014, 04:00:03 pm
I think it's been about a year since I replaced my stock muffler with a hollow bottle; It ran a little lean and was doing some backfiring, so I tried a Big City Thunder Monster Baffle. Aside from a pop every now and then, the bike has been running fine, no bluing issues, And I really like the sound. It really sings in the higher rpms. I found the hollow bottle  on ebay fairly cheap--but coming from india the shipping was expensive. Worth every penny though.
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