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on: December 27, 2013, 10:22:53 pm
So, I haven't felt worth a shit in probably 5 years or more.  The last 8 months I've had constant nausea and diarrhea and all kinds of other fun symptoms and have lost 35 pounds since (and I've never been a big guy).  About 6 weeks ago I was just so sick that I went to the ER, they recommended me to a gastro specialist.  Saw them and finally got in for my colonoscopy and endoscopy today.  (Ever prep for one?  That's a fun day/night you'll never forget.)  For the most part things were normal, but there were a few abnormalities.  They ended up taking 6 biopsies and removed a 3mm polyp.  Now because of all my symptoms and the what they found today, or lack there of, the doctor thinks I may have celiac disease (basically gluten intolerance deficiency).  But obviously, I won't know for sure until the biopsy results come back in 5-7 days.

So, I did what every man with a computer would do and got home and researched it.  It actually makes sense, this celiac disease.  I eat a lot of pastas and breads and drink LOTS of beer, which are the WORST things to consume with this disease.  I actually haven't drank hardly any beer for the last 3 weeks because I was getting to the point that half way thru my 2nd beer it'd come back up.   :(   But, all my symptoms match right up, including symptoms I didn't even realize were relevant.  Like my chronic back pain, and this new symptom that started about 4 months ago where my hands are constantly weak and occasionally go numb, like when you fall asleep wrong and wake up with a "sleeping" limb.  It's weird, I've been dropping shit left and right because I think I'm holding onto to something and then when I pick it up it just falls to the floor.  Not a good thing when I work cars all day and my bikes in my spare time.

Anyways, I'm just nervous about the results. I have been for the last month.  And now that the doctor brought up a whole new disease I've never heard of and I MAY have to give up all the things I love to eat and drink I'm pretty bummed out.  What bums me out the most is KARMA!  I've been talking shit for so many years about people being gluten-free, thinking it was just the new health fad.  Only to find out, like a cruel ironic life changing joke, I may have to live the rest of my life gluten-free.  I'm actually considering starting the new diet now just in case, because I need to start feeling better, like 4 years ago.

If any of you suffer from this or just want to give me words of encouragement, it'd be appreciated.  Thanks.

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Reply #1 on: December 27, 2013, 10:39:16 pm
I don't have it, but I have cut out a lot of that kind of stuff for about a year now, and I have lost a lot of excess weight and feel a whole lot better.
I hope everything works out okay for you.
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Reply #2 on: December 27, 2013, 11:24:31 pm
Count your blessings Scottie.
Usually whenever someone looks up some sort of illness they end up reading things like "incurable", "intense pain" and "fatal".  Then after seeing a doctor that actually knows what the real answer is they find that with a few minor changes in their lifestyle and maybe a pill a day and they're fine.
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Reply #3 on: December 28, 2013, 12:02:43 am
My wife has it, diagnosed in her late 20s so she had to make a lot of big changes.  You learn to find quality substitutes...don't immediately assume any paeticular thing that is gluten free is the best you will ever find.

If it turns out you have it, get in touch and I will make some recommendations...


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Reply #4 on: December 28, 2013, 12:04:17 am
So, I haven't felt worth a shit in probably 5 years or more.  The last 8 months I've had constant nausea and diarrhea and all kinds of other fun symptoms and have lost 35 pounds since (and I've never been a big guy).  About 6 weeks ago I was just so sick that I went to the ER, they recommended me to a gastro specialist.  Saw them and finally got in for my colonoscopy and endoscopy today.  (Ever prep for one?  That's a fun day/night you'll never forget.)  For the most part things were normal, but there were a few abnormalities.  They ended up taking 6 biopsies and removed a 3mm polyp.  Now because of all my symptoms and the what they found today, or lack there of, the doctor thinks I may have celiac disease (basically gluten intolerance deficiency).  But obviously, I won't know for sure until the biopsy results come back in 5-7 days.

So, I did what every man with a computer would do and got home and researched it.  It actually makes sense, this celiac disease.  I eat a lot of pastas and breads and drink LOTS of beer, which are the WORST things to consume with this disease.  I actually haven't drank hardly any beer for the last 3 weeks because I was getting to the point that half way thru my 2nd beer it'd come back up.   :(   But, all my symptoms match right up, including symptoms I didn't even realize were relevant.  Like my chronic back pain, and this new symptom that started about 4 months ago where my hands are constantly weak and occasionally go numb, like when you fall asleep wrong and wake up with a "sleeping" limb.  It's weird, I've been dropping shit left and right because I think I'm holding onto to something and then when I pick it up it just falls to the floor.  Not a good thing when I work cars all day and my bikes in my spare time.

Anyways, I'm just nervous about the results. I have been for the last month.  And now that the doctor brought up a whole new disease I've never heard of and I MAY have to give up all the things I love to eat and drink I'm pretty bummed out.  What bums me out the most is KARMA!  I've been talking shit for so many years about people being gluten-free, thinking it was just the new health fad.  Only to find out, like a cruel ironic life changing joke, I may have to live the rest of my life gluten-free.  I'm actually considering starting the new diet now just in case, because I need to start feeling better, like 4 years ago.

If any of you suffer from this or just want to give me words of encouragement, it'd be appreciated.  Thanks.

Scottie

Hi Scottie,
Several years ago a buddy from work ( name is Tom) was diagnosed with Celiac's which as he explained it is an allergy to "gluten", the protein found in wheat and wheat products such as most commercially prepared breads and pastas for example. I recall him saying that the reaction involves the damage of receptors located in the stomach lining and intestine, resulting in the malabsorption of nutrients and severe nutrient deficiencies. Toms symptoms of chronic fatigue and weight loss had come on in the year prior to my meeting him and by that time he looked as if he couldn't open a pickle jar let alone do roadway repair. Long story short he got checked out and the verdict was Celiac's disease which is by no means a death sentence. He became a "gluten-free" maniac which is easier to do than you might think. Today (17 years later), Tom's as healthy (and big) as a horse. Just do your research on what to avoid and you'll probably notice that most good supermarkets cater to the gluten-free crowd of which you're now a proud member.
This condition seems pretty well understood so if you follow the guidelines you should have your health back in no time. Good luck.
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Reply #5 on: December 28, 2013, 12:21:35 am
i am newly convinced that their is a conspiracy to get many of us to the grave sooner rather than later. two things this may serve maybe more. one the government makes money on the doctors that get rich and have to pay higher taxes to the government. two no payout of retirements or pensions. possible three a crude form of population control.
i digress. i was the only one in all my family that lost weight over the holiday. i lost 22 pounds and changed belt size from a 44 to a 40. i could buy tighter pants but i am still losing weight. all that and i did not run or jog or walk or lift weights or do any kind of exercise. what did i do you might ask? i watched a free video. no pills no gimmicks no credit cards. seems that a pediatric doctor needed to satisfy questions he had about childhood obesity and diabetes along with many other childhood diseases that are affecting our youngest among us.
his research just kept coming back to sugar! sugar and high fructose corn syrup and honey and molasses and juice drinks and and and...
you have to watch it and listen to believe it. his first major discovery is outlined in a video called " sugar the bitter truth  ". 89 minutes long i have now watched it three times . he has a followup video related to the first called " fat chance " the video is free but he has published a book in that name and it has made it to the new york times best sellers list.  i might buy it.
i learned more after listening to this doctor.  do a google search for jadeinstitute and the words bone soup . or as our grandmothers used to make us chicken soup. jade institute has a 10 paragraph article about how we are collagen deficient. collagen is for the hair, nails, skin these are the obvious but the non obvious is the stomach lining the intestines the colon the joints of our body and many more things. i now slow cook chicken or beef bones in my crock pot twice a week and store in freezer for daily use.
our fda food pyramid is wrong and i found a site that has what ellis calls a food thermometer. read all about it here http://www.rajeun.net/carbotherm.html
best of luck in your quest for better health.


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Reply #6 on: December 28, 2013, 01:55:46 am
For a few months I was trailed to see if I was a Celiac, turns out I wasn't. But I discovered lot's of foods that tasted pretty good but were gluten free, like cereals, breads, pastas ect.

It may be a pain but good luck sir Scottie!
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Reply #7 on: December 28, 2013, 02:13:44 am
Thanks for your responses, it's good to know that it's not as uncommon as I thought.  I'm just stressing out about everything, work, bills and money mostly, and overwhelmed which doesn't help matters.  I guess what threw me off was that I've been sick as hell, throwing up 2-5 times a week sick, and there was no sign of an ulcer or ulcerative colitis.  So obviously something is going on, and now I have to wait a week or more to find out what.   :(

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Reply #8 on: December 28, 2013, 02:17:40 am
My good friend has been making the adjustment to gluten free for over a year do to celiac disease.

My outsider perspective is you will discover it's a pain in the ass at first, especially when you go out to eat.  However, so many places are wise to this and already have you covered with gluten free options.  I feel like that is less of a pain in the ass than what you go through when you actually have the symptoms.  You just have to figure out what's best and what substitutes are actually going to be good eat rather than sacrificing. 

Better knowing and fixing than suffering through a mystery.  Good luck buddy, and hang in there.   

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Reply #9 on: December 28, 2013, 03:01:15 am
Thanks for your responses, it's good to know that it's not as uncommon as I thought.  I'm just stressing out about everything, work, bills and money mostly, and overwhelmed which doesn't help matters.  I guess what threw me off was that I've been sick as hell, throwing up 2-5 times a week sick, and there was no sign of an ulcer or ulcerative colitis.  So obviously something is going on, and now I have to wait a week or more to find out what.   :(

Scottie

I had that when I became Lactose Intolerant (Moderately, I can have chocolate and cheese but straight milk messes me up) I just suddenly was always feeling really sick, after a month of basically staying home with no fever or high temp, I ended up getting a bunch of tests (Including an Ultrasound, which...tickles)

It is quite a pain, but once you found a the ways around the bigger things, it becomes natural.
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Reply #10 on: December 28, 2013, 05:13:52 am
Maybe I should have mentioned that telling folks about your illness is just about as bad as looking up symptoms and illnesses on the web.  All sorts of possible problems will come out of the woodwork for you to worry about.

For instance, your mentioning your nausea.
For a couple of years I would sometimes develop this problem.  Sometimes several times a day.  Sometimes, not for several weeks.
It turned out to be an infected and plugged up gall bladder.  No pain.  Just sometimes I would feel like hell and then start barfing.
The doctors finally found the problem when I suddenly got so sick I had to go to the ER.

I guess what I'm saying is let your doctor do some tests and go with what he decides unless it involves chopping on your body.   If it comes to that, get a new doctor and see if he comes up with the same answer.
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Reply #11 on: December 28, 2013, 05:56:36 am
Hi Scottie,

I have never heard of celiac disease but it sounds to me like you are getting some sound advise from your doctors.  Go along with their tests Non Destructive Inspection testing is the way to go, if they come at you with a knife, run as fast as you can.

Be patient, they will get to the bottom of your problem.

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Reply #12 on: December 28, 2013, 02:01:10 pm
Scottie my wife has a gluten problem, you'll just have to give up eating a lot of good shit and buy expensive no gluten products. It's not going to kill you, just's a pain in the ass. Eat the wrong stuff and feel lousy.  ERC
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Reply #13 on: December 28, 2013, 02:59:26 pm
I feel a little less stressed out today.  Hopefully it is celiac disease that I have, that would be a good thing.  Because all I have to do to feel better is change my diet.  If I have Chrones disease like they originally thought I'll be stuck taking expensive medication for the rest of my life.  And honestly, gluten is the only thing that I never tried cutting out of my diet.  I stopped smoking, stopped drinking, stopped eating spicy food, stopped eating fast food, all kinds of stuff, and just never felt any better.  And like I said in my first post, it's probably Karma for me making fun of people who are Gluten free.  I'm ignorant at times.  Oh well, what do you do?

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Reply #14 on: December 28, 2013, 03:00:38 pm
Good luck with it Scottie . I know nuthin.  But you got best wishes bud.
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Reply #15 on: December 28, 2013, 06:52:48 pm
I feel a little less stressed out today.  Hopefully it is celiac disease that I have, that would be a good thing.  Because all I have to do to feel better is change my diet.  If I have Chrones disease like they originally thought I'll be stuck taking expensive medication for the rest of my life.  And honestly, gluten is the only thing that I never tried cutting out of my diet.  I stopped smoking, stopped drinking, stopped eating spicy food, stopped eating fast food, all kinds of stuff, and just never felt any better.  And like I said in my first post, it's probably Karma for me making fun of people who are Gluten free.  I'm ignorant at times.  Oh well, what do you do?

Scottie

Friend of mine had the exact same situation...turned out to be celiac.  Diagnosed in mid 30s, with no warning of the onset of the condition.  Best of luck.  Sucks to say "hope you have Celiac's," but at least then you will know what is wrong and how to fix it.

PS. My celiac wife is annoyed to death by those who are gluten free by choice and for fashion...


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Reply #16 on: December 28, 2013, 08:20:28 pm
My cousin as diagnosed with this several years ago, but as soon as he changed his diet, he improved markedly. There are grocery stores around here that carry a lot of the gluten free stuff. There are some pretty decent looking choices on the shelves. It really doesn't appear to be anything to get your panties in a knot over. Granted you can miss the white stuff, but it won't take long to get used to! Good luck and get better!
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Reply #17 on: December 28, 2013, 11:37:22 pm
Scottie -

Don't worry, there's gluten-free beer!!!

Celiac seems to run in my family, but I haven't had any problems... yet.  However, my wife went gluten-free when she learned that a lot of people taking Parkinsons meds had absorption wackiness due to the gluten proteins, and she stayed off it for a few years (the gluten, not the meds  ;) ).  She's on such high doses now, it almost doesn't matter anymore, but she still chooses to eat mostly gluten-free at home - if that gives you any ideas about how terrible being GF is!

I do know that there are varying degrees of celiac - the hardest hit really cannot ingest any gluten without serious digestive hassles.  These people often have their own toasters so they don't have to share with people toasting "real" bread and risk eating the crumbs.  But I've never come across that extreme.

I'm here to tell you that going GF is not hard, and it's no big deal, especially preparing meals and eating at home.  Once you get over the initial learning speed bump, and change a few eating and shopping habits, you'll hardly even notice.  Eating out can be more of a challenge, but as was said, more and more restaurants are wise to the problem.  It was harder 8 years ago than it was now.  The hardest part may be visiting friends or family for meals when they aren't used to making GF food.

Scottie, if it turns out you do have celiac, you will likely find that diet change makes you feel so much better so quickly that you'll happily make the pretty basic and easy changes you need to make.  The only real drawback is in directly substituting GF foods for non - it can get expensive (in the UK, the high cost of GF foods is eased by national health care subsidies for those who medically require it).

Good luck, and hang in there!

ps: we've tried just about every GF pasta there is, and we've stettled on one which is almost indistinguishable from the real deal - in both taste, texture and price!  When I get home, I'll check the brand and let you know...


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Reply #18 on: December 29, 2013, 12:05:51 am
The prices are killer. You'd think if they eliminated the gluten it would be cheaper. From not having to add it. Less is usually cheaper.    ERC
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Reply #19 on: December 29, 2013, 12:38:58 am
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Good luck with it Scottie . I know nuthin.  But you got best wishes bud.

+1, Scottie!
Glad to hear you saw the doc. Not knowing is much worse!
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Reply #20 on: December 29, 2013, 01:00:25 am
Well I made a STRONG conscience effort to not consume any gluten today.  And low and behold for the first time in almost 2 months I haven't felt nauseous ONCE today!  Yay!  Maybe it's just coincidence,  but I feel half way descent for once.  Thank God.

And Matt, I tried some gluten free beer a couple months ago just because I like trying new beers.  I stopped and picked up a 6 pack of pale ale to treat myself.  O'Mission, you ever heard of it?  It's damn good.  :D

Thanks for all the encouraging words guys, I really appreciate it.  It's also nice to know my boss and coworkers are concerned as well.  My boss called last night saying "Hey I'm not calling to bother you about work.  I just wanted to check in with you and see how things went with the doctor and see how you were feeling."  That definitely took a LOAD of stress off.  :)

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Reply #21 on: December 29, 2013, 01:55:13 am
Costs are weird.  It could be economies of scale - 1 pound of GF pasta produced and sold for every... what, I wonder... 10,000 pounds of regular?  Just a wild guess!

Scottie, I'll look for O'Mission - must be Irish beer?   ;)

And, I think you're headed in the right direction when the people at work are concerned more about you than work!  Good on ya', buddy!!!


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Reply #22 on: December 29, 2013, 04:16:16 am


Scottie, I'll look for O'Mission - must be Irish beer?   ;)


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Reply #23 on: December 29, 2013, 01:36:51 pm
+1 on your boss, bro!
Wish more employers were like that. 
And glad to hear of the improvement! ;D
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Reply #24 on: December 29, 2013, 02:06:55 pm
Scottie . Progress! Awesome !!!
Karma huh ? Could be any of us,
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Reply #25 on: December 29, 2013, 08:08:08 pm
Scottie,

My Mother was diagnosed when she was 40 years old and almost died from it.  She was in the hospital and they were feeding her on bread and water???  The disease was not as well known back then.  Anyway, she is now 83 and probably fitter than I am!
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Reply #26 on: December 29, 2013, 09:14:34 pm
So if he wants to look like an 83-year old grandmother....  ;)
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Reply #27 on: December 29, 2013, 10:10:09 pm
The prices are killer. You'd think if they eliminated the gluten it would be cheaper. From not having to add it. Less is usually cheaper.    ERC

I don't know if that's a joke, but...gluten's not something you have to add.  It's something you have to avoid through use of non-wheat ingredients, many of which are really expensive.

All wheat has gluten in it, and you don't "de-gluten" wheat to make a gluten-free product.  (and even if you did, that'd be another step in the foodmaking process, not an omission...) 

You use rice flour, bean flour, nut flour, potato flour...most of which can't normally imitate the chewy (glutinous) quality of normal wheat breads.  They have to substitute bean gums and the like to try and get the texture right.  Sometimes it works splendidly, other times not.

Scottie, as a first step I recommend trying "Chebe bread."  Made of cassava flour and cheese that you add.  It's a Brazilian party food, mostly.  Make little balls, sticks, or pizza crust.  Amazingly good.



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Reply #28 on: December 30, 2013, 12:20:50 am
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Well I made a STRONG conscience effort to not consume any gluten today.  And low and behold for the first time in almost 2 months I haven't felt nauseous ONCE today!  Yay!  Maybe it's just coincidence,  but I feel half way descent for once.  Thank God.

Great to hear you're already having good days. Keep it up!
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Reply #29 on: December 30, 2013, 12:25:42 am
My wife has been buying gluten free bread for 20 years...there was only 1 manufacturer of it then. Now, there are many and the prices have skyrocketed due to the demand and marketing...it's big business...There is no reason for it to be so expensive...she pays almost $9 for a package of 6 gluten free bagels...  ERC
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Reply #30 on: December 30, 2013, 12:49:51 am
My wife has been buying gluten free bread for 20 years...there was only 1 manufacturer of it then. Now, there are many and the prices have skyrocketed due to the demand and marketing...it's big business...There is no reason for it to be so expensive...she pays almost $9 for a package of 6 gluten free bagels...  ERC

It is expensive as hell.  Is she buying the Udi's brand stuff?  They're pretty tasty.


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Reply #31 on: December 30, 2013, 01:00:57 pm
mattz - Did you get a chance to figure what brand pasta you and your wife eat?
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Reply #32 on: December 30, 2013, 01:15:57 pm
Hey Scottie-

Not yet... we're still down at my parents' place for Christmas!  We came down on the 23rd and we'll probably head home today, weather permitting (I have to go back to work on Wednesday).  I'll look as soon as I get home!

Meanwhile, my wife buys a slightly sweetened GF baking mix which is, as we've been discussing, on the pricey side, but it makes what I consider to be the best pancakes anywhere!  In my opinion there are none better - they come out somewhat thin and delicate, rather than thick and cakey, so I guess you gotta like 'em that way.  She loads them up with sweet, small Maine blueberries we pick ourselves and store (we've got about 30 quarts in the freezer!).  The same mix also makes yummy muffins (it does have some dairy in it):

Pamela's Baking & Pancake Mix:



http://www.pamelasproducts.com/products/baking-mixes/pamelas-baking-pancake-mix/


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Reply #33 on: December 30, 2013, 01:46:24 pm
Cool!  Thanks!
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Reply #34 on: December 30, 2013, 02:49:52 pm
Might as well say I've been dealing with celiac for a few years even though it's my married daughter that is afflicted..I'm accustom to cooking everything gluten free when she comes over and eat gluten free meals when I visit her...She had her own toaster for gluten free breads and she's a real stickler when eating out..It's  a  total life style change and it can be a real PIA if you  eat out.. Their are many places that state their're gluten free " right after they toasted some hamburger buns on the same griddle that your gluten free bread is now sitting on". Forget the pancake places and fast food joints (except the fries and then you need to see what coating are on those too..)...Be prepared to spend more money and see if your family can try to eat gluten free meals, at least as a start to see if you can incorporate it into something less problematic. ...Good luck and research your area...GM
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Reply #35 on: December 30, 2013, 05:39:59 pm

Pamela's Baking & Pancake Mix:



http://www.pamelasproducts.com/products/baking-mixes/pamelas-baking-pancake-mix/

YES YES YES.  A thousand times, YES.

Pamela's is indistinguishable in pancake form from any other pancake...perhaps it is slightly "multigrain" in texture but it is absolutely wonderful stuff.  Like gluten free Bisquick.

You can serve it and people won't even know they are eating gluten free.  Every other pancake/waffle we've tried tastes like sand mixed with bits of paper.  But with a worse texture.


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Reply #36 on: December 30, 2013, 06:31:26 pm
YES YES YES.  A thousand times, YES.

Pamela's is indistinguishable in pancake form from any other pancake...perhaps it is slightly "multigrain" in texture but it is absolutely wonderful stuff.  Like gluten free Bisquick.

You can serve it and people won't even know they are eating gluten free.  Every other pancake/waffle we've tried tastes like sand mixed with bits of paper.  But with a worse texture.

It's the only pancakes we serve at our house, and whenever our friends come to visit, they beg and plead for them...


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Reply #37 on: December 30, 2013, 07:22:26 pm
That's great, I can't wait to pick some up!  Can I find that stuff at most grocery stores or do you need to order it online?

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Reply #38 on: December 30, 2013, 09:10:21 pm
We get it at a local health-food store, but their website "where can I buy this stuff" search form lists Denver area Whole Foods markets, Natural Grocers, and probably every Kroger in the time zone.  Hopefully you'll be able to find it!

http://www.pamelasproducts.com/retail-locations/


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Reply #40 on: December 31, 2013, 11:03:37 pm
I'm home!

Tinkyada is a rice pasta which we like just fine, although it's on the pricey side, upwards of $4 a pound:



http://www.tinkyada.com/


We found another brand, Sam Mills "Pasta d'oro", which is a corn pasta.  We like it better than the Tinkyada, not in the least because it's almost the same low price as wheat pasta!  We find it in many shapes at our local Maine "discount" department story (Reny's), but we also find it at at a nearby Ocean State Job Lots, which is a sort of discount, closeout place which sells all sorts of junk, but they have a big food selection (we also find lots of Bob's Red Mill grain products there).  We can find it locally for between $1.50 and $2 a pound.



The website isn't much help; it makes me think of Monsanto.  I wonder if Sam Mills knows that?  8) :

http://www.sammills.ro/sammillsusa-en.html


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Reply #41 on: January 01, 2014, 05:44:08 am
Most of the better Chinese markets have a lot of various forms of pasta that is made from rice.

They usually cook very quickly so don't give them the old 5 or 10 minutes of boiling that wheat pasta takes or you'll end up with mush.  Rather tasteless mush at that.

Don't buy "mein" noodles as in "chow mein".  Buy the "fen" or "fun" noodles.  They are made from rice or mung bean starch.
 
To thicken gravy's and sauces of any kind, rather than using wheat flour, use corn starch.  It's gluten free and basically tasteless and used in almost all Chinese cooking.  It's also used in fresh strawberry pie to make the thick sauce that the strawberries are in.  Yum.

To thicken gravy or other sauces, first stir the corn starch into a little water and work the lumps out.  Then, pour it into the hot sauce and stir.  It will thicken it in a matter of a few seconds. :)
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Reply #42 on: January 01, 2014, 03:18:01 pm
Most of the better Chinese markets have a lot of various forms of pasta that is made from rice.

They usually cook very quickly so don't give them the old 5 or 10 minutes of boiling that wheat pasta takes or you'll end up with mush.  Rather tasteless mush at that.

Don't buy "mein" noodles as in "chow mein".  Buy the "fen" or "fun" noodles.  They are made from rice or mung bean starch.
 
To thicken gravy's and sauces of any kind, rather than using wheat flour, use corn starch.  It's gluten free and basically tasteless and used in almost all Chinese cooking.  It's also used in fresh strawberry pie to make the thick sauce that the strawberries are in.  Yum.

To thicken gravy or other sauces, first stir the corn starch into a little water and work the lumps out.  Then, pour it into the hot sauce and stir.  It will thicken it in a matter of a few seconds. :)

Thanks for the tips Arizoni, however my wife is going to school for Culinary Arts and was quite an amazing cook before she even started.  She has always used corn starch for thickening gravies and soups., so no worries there.

Thanks for posting those mattz!  Much appreciated!

The other day when I was at store, I picked up some Gluten-Free Bisquick and some brand of GF penne noddles.  So far so good.  That GF Bisquick sure does make some good pancakes.  :D

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Reply #43 on: January 01, 2014, 08:10:55 pm
I had no idea Bisquick was doing a gluten free.  Hm.  Part of me doesn't even want to try because I want to give Pamela's my business out of sheer thanks for amazing pancakes.



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Reply #44 on: January 01, 2014, 08:13:40 pm
I'm still going to try Pamela' a try, but the bisquick seems to be fine in a pinch.  :)

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Reply #45 on: January 01, 2014, 08:54:23 pm
Gluten free bisquick is great especially as dumplings on top of Shaker stew...
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Reply #46 on: January 01, 2014, 11:57:00 pm
i would move to Colorado  ;)


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Reply #47 on: January 02, 2014, 01:04:48 am
i would move to Colorado  ;)

I already live here!   ;)   Actually, I've had my medical marijuana card long before they legalized it for recreational use.  It does wonders for my knees and nausea.   :)   Doesn't do much for my back these days tho unless I eat it.  I think I slipped a disc at some point.  I tell ya, I'm just falling apart.

And speaking of which......  You would not BELIEVE the lines outside of the dispensaries that started selling retail today!  All the way thru the parking lots!   :o  Luckily, as of now my dispensary will not be selling to retail clients, patients only.  I hope it stays that way.

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Reply #48 on: January 03, 2014, 01:14:23 am
This sucks.  All I can think about is eating a big greasy bacon cheese burger, and I'm not ordering a burger without a bun again because that was a inconvenient mess.  What a pain in the ass.  This gluten free bs.  I'm used to living off of carbs and now I can barely eat them and I'm constantly hungry.  And I hate rice.  I'm pretty well screwed I think.
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Reply #49 on: January 03, 2014, 01:27:16 am
Have courage, Scottie!  Remember back in post #20 how good you felt!

It's going to take some time to sort out, but you will get there, and before you know it you won't believe you were ever so gluten-dependent.

When you're feeling really shitty about it, have some pancakes!!!!


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Reply #50 on: January 03, 2014, 01:43:20 am

When you're feeling really shitty about it, have some pancakes!!!!

Put a burger patty between them... :)


Btw, a bread maker is a good investment.  There are good mixes available.  I don't know of a good bun/roll for burgers, though, mostly because my wife's not very into burgers.  When I have one, I eat out.


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Reply #51 on: January 03, 2014, 02:15:39 am
Funny you guys should say that.  I ate a ham and cheese sandwich between 2 pancakes.  I tried to pretend it was tasty.
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Reply #52 on: January 03, 2014, 10:55:48 am
We were visiting friends who took us out for breakfast at a "farm stand" which is known for its breakfast and lunch as well.  One of our friends dared me to order the breakfast special, which was a bacon, egg and cheese sandwich... served on an apple cider donut.  It really wasn't good - as I expected!  But our friend is so nice and so pretty that even my wife understands that I was powerless to resist...

My wife has generally stayed away from packaged GF breads - she does buy one of the Udi's varieties, but she always toasts the bread before making any sandwiches with it.  But I admit it's not like the real deal.

There's some GF pizza crusts which aren't bad either!  And don't forget, corn tortillas!

Hang in there Scottie, you'll find your way...


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Reply #53 on: January 05, 2014, 12:19:05 am
Went to Sprouts today to buy a bunch of different flours for a homemade G-F bread recipe only to find out they have ALL the Pamela's mixes!    :D   So I picked up a bag of the bread flour mix and I just put the first loaf in the oven.  I'm so excited as it's been over a week since I've had any kind of bread.  And I have to say it looked and smelled amazing just rising in the pan.    :)

Thanks Matt and Mr X for suggesting that product.  I love this forum.    :)

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Reply #54 on: January 05, 2014, 02:04:41 am
Yum!  This stuff is WAY better than any bread you can buy in a store!  Thanks again guys!    :D
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Reply #55 on: January 06, 2014, 01:07:48 am
Scottie - that's awesome, and to be honest, I'm glad to hear it because most of the pre-made GF breads you can buy just aren't that good.  Flavor: ok, but texture: :(  ...which is why my wife always toasts hers!

Did you get the bread flour mix and just follow the directions?

We'll all keep each other going here, one way or another!  ;)


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Reply #56 on: January 06, 2014, 04:36:21 am
Yeah, I got the bread mix and followed the directions.  AND I just done making some sugar cookies using the bread mix instead of regular flour and they are FANTASTIC!  I can't believe how good they are!

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Reply #57 on: January 06, 2014, 04:11:22 pm
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Reply #58 on: January 06, 2014, 04:41:50 pm
If you are indeed gluten intolerant, you'll gonna have to dedicated yourself to a new way of thinking re. what you put in your mouth....It's not easy and depending on your personality it could be a real PIA for the individual as well as family members who are not afflicted...Just thinking of what gluten has done to the lining of your intestinal tract and overall health should suffice but some people are resistance to change and continue down the same old road...Alot of that depends on how sensitive you are to Gluten and what damage has occurred over the years...The good thing is that there are now real food options for people and it's not all in your head...Hormone replacement therapy - Why not tackle your new gluten free lifestyle first , maybe that's why you feel the way you do.....Dr. GreenMachine.. 8)
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Reply #59 on: January 06, 2014, 05:41:05 pm
I've been gluten free since I started this thread (with the exception of one cookie that I regretted the next day) and already I feel 20 times better than I did 2 weeks ago.  Or even 2 years ago for that matter!  That's why I now need to get back into shape to get my COMPLETE health back on track.  I used to be an amateur kick boxer for 7 years and a pro mma fighter for 18 months.  I used to work out 2-3x a day 5-6x a week, 3000 calories a day and a rainbow of different vitamins.  I was 170 pounds of vicious muscle.  That all stopped when I took a manager position and started working 60 hours a week.  I no longer had time to work out, let alone fight, and that was the beginning of the demise of my health.  This was about 5 years ago.  Enough is enough.  I want my 8 pack back!

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Reply #60 on: January 07, 2014, 03:55:10 am
I've been gluten free since I started this thread (with the exception of one cookie that I regretted the next day) and already I feel 20 times better than I did 2 weeks ago.  Or even 2 years ago for that matter!  That's why I now need to get back into shape to get my COMPLETE health back on track.  I used to be an amateur kick boxer for 7 years and a pro mma fighter for 18 months.  I used to work out 2-3x a day 5-6x a week, 3000 calories a day and a rainbow of different vitamins.  I was 170 pounds of vicious muscle.  That all stopped when I took a manager position and started working 60 hours a week.  I no longer had time to work out, let alone fight, and that was the beginning of the demise of my health.  This was about 5 years ago.  Enough is enough.  I want my 8 pack back!

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Reply #61 on: January 07, 2014, 05:17:43 am

On my way back to glorious fitness again, new job is Mechanic, so just moving around makes such a difference!

You'll burn plenty of calories, but believe me, you won't be building a whole lot of muscle.  It will feel like it for the first couple of months, but then muscle memory sets in.



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Reply #62 on: January 07, 2014, 05:25:28 am
You'll burn plenty of calories, but believe me, you won't be building a whole lot of muscle.  It will feel like it for the first couple of months, but then muscle memory sets in.

That's where my Locomotive workings set it ;)
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Reply #63 on: March 23, 2014, 03:58:48 pm
Hey peeps!

What hell is the trick to cooking GF pancakes?  Mine either come out too thick and slightly gooey in the middle or come out too thin and just....  Weird.  LOL  What am I missing here?!

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Reply #64 on: March 23, 2014, 04:50:35 pm
So much GF stuff now...You'll have to try different brands as their is a big difference in taste and texture....I always liked GF pancakes with Blueberries....I find u have to add some flavor in with some of the bake stuff to get your taste buds adjusted to the taste....I bet u eat alot of corn/potato based  products now..... :o
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Reply #65 on: March 23, 2014, 05:05:00 pm
Scottie - we had them for breakfast this morning!

My wife uses Pamela's Baking and Pancake Mix, and basically follows the directions:
  • 1 cup Mix
  • 1 large egg
  • 3/4 cup water
  • 1 Tablespoon oil

She says she uses a very large egg, and she uses safflower oil.  She also adds blueberries - we pick all the small wild Maine berries we can in the summer and freeze them.  She just tosses a handful, frozen, into the mix.  She also says, don't let the batter sit and rest; once it's mixed up, use it.

The batter is pretty thin, and the pancakes come out thin and sort of delicate - they're not thick like Bisquick hocky-pucks.  We prefer them this way, but maybe our "fabulous thin and delicate" is your "too thin and just weird"!  I don't know; I'd eat myself sick on them if she let me!

I wonder what would happen with less water and a thicker batter...


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Reply #66 on: March 23, 2014, 05:11:21 pm
I ran out of Pamela's mix and have been using Bloomfield's pancake mix and its actually too thick when mixed according to the directions.  Halfway through cooking I realized they were coming out weird because I forgot to add an egg this time.. ::)   What temp does your wife set the griddle?

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Reply #67 on: March 23, 2014, 05:18:12 pm
Eggs'z good!

Stoves vary; ours is electric, with settings from 1-10.  She sets it at about 3-1/2, and gives the pan (a flat, heavy, non-stick crepe pan) plenty of time to warm up to that temp setting.  A little spray of oil (olive, I think!) for lubrication, and let 'er rip!


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Reply #68 on: March 24, 2014, 02:47:25 pm
High on Octane: So let me this straight..Are you the only one in the family eating gluten free?  I'm only asking as it makes things alot easier if all the meals were prepared in this fashion....Cooking for one is PIA under any condition...Some people are real sticklers and use different pots, etc  to make sure that their isn't any chance of  Gluten contamination... Tell me how I know.... Good luck with it...
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Reply #69 on: March 24, 2014, 03:32:26 pm
Yes I'm the only one with celiac, but we cook for the whole family.
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Reply #70 on: April 06, 2014, 11:50:27 pm
We just got home from a couple of days away, and were looking for an easy dinner: GF vegetable pancakes!

My wife sauteed up some of last year's garden kale (from the freezer), some of last year's cabbage (from the back of our fridge, if you can believe it), mushrooms and onions (any veggies will do, though).  Then she mixed up the standard Pamela's pancake recipe, folded the sauteed veggies in, and cooked them up in the usual fashion.  A little sour cream and salt - and washed down with a splash of Trader Joe's "two-buck" shiraz... delish!


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Reply #71 on: April 07, 2014, 12:44:30 am
YUM!  That's sounds really good!  Gonna have to try that, thanks!
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Reply #72 on: May 09, 2014, 12:26:11 am
Scottie - been thinking about you and your new "less than satisfactory" digs.  Here's something that is guaranteed to right all wrongs and cure all ills!  Absolutely unbelievably fabulous gluten-free banana bread!  If you like that sort of thing.  This is my wife's modification of the recipe on the back of Pamela's GF Pancake Mix.  Here's the recipe, with her changes and additions in bold face.  The coconut oil is the new favorite, healthy fat, and adds a nice flavor.  The chocolate is, well... chocolate!

Slightly Modified Pamela's GF Pancake Mix Banana Bread with Chocolate Chips

1/4 cup melted coconut oil (originally melted butter, or you could use vegetable oil)
2 large beaten eggs
1/4 cup pure maple syrup (originally 1/2 cup sugar or honey)
1tsp vanilla
3 over-ripe medium bananas, mashed (originally 1 cup bananas)
1-3/4 cups Pamela's Pancake mix
1/2 tsp salt
1/2 cup walnuts (optional)
a "generous" 1/2 cup chocolate chips (we use dark chocolate chips!)

Preheat oven to 350℉.  Beat together 1st four ingredients (through vanilla), mash in bananas, fold in Pamela's mix, salt, nuts, and chocolate chips.  Oil a loaf pan, (optional: also line the bottom with parchment paper), Pour mix into pan, bake 1 hour or until toothpick comes out clean.  Turn out and cool on a baking rack before slicing, if you can wait that long…


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Reply #73 on: May 09, 2014, 05:09:15 pm
I love banana bread!  I'll have to try this soon.  Thank Matt!
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Reply #74 on: June 26, 2014, 10:38:34 pm
I've read the 1st and last page of this. Grandfather suffered from it back when it was relatively unknown. I'm the only one in my house that eats wheat related products. I have managed to whip up a pretty good Victoria Sponge cake if your interested. Not that much of a boast actually thinking about it, I just substituted normal flour for gluten free self raising.

Here in the UK, it almost appears fashionable these days to be gluten free, lactose free etc. Almost like it's some kind of new 'in' thing. Well, that's how it seems to me anyway.

Sounds like you've pretty much got accustomed to the new diet HIO.


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Reply #75 on: June 26, 2014, 10:49:47 pm
It seems like being gluten free is kind of a fad here in the states as well.  In fact I think I mentioned it here earlier that I used get mad at the gluten free diet.  I thought it was nothing BUT a fad until I was diagnosed with Celiac disease and then I was saying to the doctor "Wait.  This is an actual medical condition?"

As far as that sponge cake recipe goes I would love to give it a try.  My wife loves to bake and has been wanting to learn more GF recipes for me.  :)

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Reply #76 on: June 26, 2014, 11:11:35 pm
I think Carlsberg has it bass awackward.
People suffering from Celiac cannot eat stuff with gluten in it.
The gluten causes the small intestine to rebel and causes all sorts of problems.

His cake, where he substitutes normal flour for the gluten free flour would cause great mischief in your bowels. :( 

You could use his cake recipe as it was originally written for using gluten free flour though.
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Reply #77 on: June 26, 2014, 11:16:37 pm
I thought that's what he said he had done.   ???
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Reply #78 on: June 27, 2014, 01:07:28 pm
Sorry Scotty, not sure why I put HIO, I was thinking High 'In' Octane when I typed that.

Perhaps I should have said:

 I just substituted the normal flour for gluten free self raising.

Anyhow,

I think the general idea is to use the same weight for the sugar, flour and butter as all 4 eggs weigh but it's not a requirement asfaik. Room temp helps a great deal.

225g unsalted butter, softened
225g caster sugar
4 large free-range eggs (chicken kindness?) at room temp
1/2 teaspoon Vanilla extract (I couldn't taste the difference personally when I'd run out)
225g self-raising flour. Sift it. Now I use a product here called Doves farm white self-raisng Gluten Free flour. I'm not sure what brands you have available to you.

1 tbsp milk, room temp. (I happen to use Lactose free here, as that's also an issue for the rest of them.)

Filling

Good load of jam, 6 tbsp say of raspberry, strawberry you choose.

Sprinkle some caster or icing sugar over the top for effect.

2 x 20.5cm round baking tins, greased and lined with baking paper. Makes it a lot easier to remove once baked.

1. Put the soft butter into a mixing bowl and stire with a wooden spoon or electric mixer until very smooth and creamy.

2. Gradually beat in the sugar and keep on beating until the mixture turns almost white and fluffy in texture. Break the eggs into a small bowl, add the vanilla and beat lightly with a fork to break them up a bit. Slowly add to the mixture a tablespoon or so at a time giving it a good beating each time. If it looks like it's going to curdle, add some sifted flour.

3. Once the eggs are all in, sift the flour again onto the mixture and add the milk. Gently fold the flour in using a metal spoon (whatever the difference makes I don't know). Do it lightly as possible so you don't knock all the air out. You can stop folding once all the flour has disappeared.

4. Spoon the mixture in an equal amount into the tins. Spread right into the edges and evenly.

5. Bake for 20-25 mins at 180c/350F in a preheated oven. Fan oven lower by 20c. I put a cocktail stick into it, if it pulls out clean, you know it's done. Should be a nice golden colour.

6. Remove from oven and let cool for a minute or so. Sponge should shrink a bit allowing easier removal.

7. Set one sponge upside down onto a wire rack and smother you preferred filling. Set the other sponge on top (the right way up) and dust with the caster/icing sugar.

8. Store in an airtight container, use within 5 days.

Don't forget, ingredients @ room temp.


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Reply #79 on: June 27, 2014, 01:25:28 pm
Thanks for the recipe!  Cheers!   :)
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Reply #80 on: June 27, 2014, 01:27:40 pm
I think Carlsberg has it bass awackward.

"substituted normal flour for gluten free self raising" meant "substitute the normal four called for in the recipe with gluten-free self raising".  Never mind - when he finally supplied the recipe, it became self-evident what he meant.

And you're right, there is a fashion-factor to some of these diet restrictions, here in the USA, too.  I say that's a good thing - it can only help those whose well-being depends on awareness of their plight.  If GF is the latest health craze, then Scottie has more choices when he shops and eats out...


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Reply #81 on: June 29, 2014, 09:41:24 pm
You have quit drinking beer forever. Find a wine you can drink 7 ounces daily, one.
Your food intake program is starting to change. If you can find a free county resource for nutrition requirement advice, do that.


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Reply #82 on: June 29, 2014, 10:41:42 pm
I have had some fine tasting beer that's gluten-free - or so the brewers claim...


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Reply #83 on: June 30, 2014, 02:34:25 pm
My daughter cannot have gluten or dairy. This bread recipe is the first I have found that I would put up against any wheat-based bread. It's ridiculously good bread, never mind that it is GF. Also, it is stupid easy to make. If you don't have oat flour, put oats in a blender and push the button. Voila, oat flour. :-)

http://www.yammiesglutenfreedom.com/2012/11/gluten-free-honey-oat-bread.html

My wife makes outstanding pancakes that are also GF. Here are some of her favorite basic recipes:
http://glutenfreegoddess.blogspot.com/2011/08/karinas-gluten-free-pancakes.html

http://glutenfreeonashoestring.com/healthy-oatmeal-gluten-free-pancakes/

On the whole, we stay away from the mixes. We keep the following in our cupboard, and mix according to need. You just need to learn which starches do what and you can take it from there:

arrowroot powder
tapioca starch
brown rice flour
almond flour
sorghum flour
buckwheat flour (not actually wheat...it's an herb)
potato starch
oats
corn starch

Get them in bulk, as they are expensive in the small packages. Our local co-op has them in bulk at very reasonable prices.

My wife, who generally does not like to cook, but has taken to GF baking with gusto and is our household GF baked goods expert, says the following:

"It is really all about the starch to flour ratio. You can make anything as long as you have a 1/3 starch to 2/3 flour ratio.
Flours:
Bean flour- excellent binding properties, great for baking, good texture. The taste is strong, so I recommend using it in savory dishes. Some folks will use it in everything.

Brown rice flour- a staple, easy to find, but super dry, so always mix it with a moist flour like almond or oat.

Buckwheat- an excellent all around flour. binds better than most. Slightly bitter so use a tiny bit of sweetener in most recipes (honey is good for this).

Almond flour- Great flour, excellent texture. Use it with a starch and a more basic flour (like brown rice or sorghum).

Sorghum flour- Another great all purpose flour. Less dry than brown rice, but harder to find and more expensive.Nice texture and flavor.

Quinoa flour- good dense flour, nice in savory dishes. Some folks taste the quinoa taste more than others.

Coconut flour- Great all around flour if you are independently wealthy. :-)

Starches:
(always use at least a 1/3 to 2/3 ratio of starch to above flours)

Corn starch- great, easy to find, you will taste the corn flavor a little

Amaranth- also has a distinctive taste, slightly harder to find, works very well.

Potato starch (this is NOT the same as potato flour)- binds smoothly and nicely, slightly denser than the other starches

Tapioca starch- virtually tasteless, binds nicely, good general purpose starch."

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Reply #84 on: June 30, 2014, 02:53:52 pm
Excellent!  Thanks Lemming!    :D
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Reply #85 on: June 30, 2014, 03:01:23 pm
Check again, I just added a bunch more from her....
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Reply #86 on: January 23, 2015, 02:25:57 am
Well, after being gluten free for about 4 months and feeling better, my wallet just couldn't handle the grocery bill.  So, I've been cheating a lot and eating more gluten than I should, and have been feeling ok.  A few weeks ago, my decided decided to start eating vegetarian.  Mostly because she doesn't like how live stock is treated before butcher.  I being a smart ass told her that I wasn't even interested because I love meat too much.  Over the next couple of weeks I couldn't help but start thinking about how animals are treated, all the hormones and other crap they inject animals with, all the new health diseases that have developed, and how a lot of my friends are vegetarian or vegan.  Well, one day last week meat just didn't sound good to me anymore and i packed vegetables for lunch, and by the end of the day I decided I was going to be vegetarian, and any meat I eat will be meat I caught or killed myself.  I haven't had meat (or much gluten) for a week today and I feel really good.  Not as much energy as I used to have, but I feel good.  It helps that one of my co-workers recently turned vegetarian too, so he has been very supportive of this change.  Not trying to convert anyone, but something to consider.  :)
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Reply #87 on: January 23, 2015, 04:04:56 am
Nothing wrong with being a vegetarian.

After all, vegetables are what food eats.   ;D  8)
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