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Reply #45 on: November 16, 2012, 06:12:35 am
This bike has a different frame (assumedly stiffer with probable sportier geometry) and larger-diameter fork.  Rear disc brake.

Supposedly some internal differences to the engine to make it sportier as well.


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Reply #46 on: November 16, 2012, 12:26:35 pm
I am not trying to hijack the thread, just curious. I saw a picture of the clubman kit. It appears to me, the difference is only cosmetic. The brushed aluminum tank. can some of you speak to the differences between the cafe and clubman? Thanks in advance.

The kits for the UCE must have the fuel tank compatible with the EFI fuel pump on those bikes.
I don't know if those aluminum tanks are compatible. The aluminum tanks were originally made for the old Iron Barrel bikes, and generally could be adjusted to fit the AVL bikes.
But they all had carburetors. I don't know if the EFI pump has some requirements for the tank that are special.
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Reply #47 on: November 16, 2012, 07:08:00 pm
THe EFI Tanks have a 2.5-3" hole in the bottom rear on the left side of the tank at teh back for the fuel pump, and a about 1" hole on the right for the fuel low light float. consequently the rear rear of the tank is wider than the iron barrel tanks. It would be very difficult the install this stuff in the old tanks. Some of the custom Manx style tanks for wide frame Nortons may be wide enough in the back to handle this stuff, but it would still be an undertaking to mount them. It will basically amount to building new tanks to be able to install the mounting rings before the halves are welded together.
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Reply #48 on: November 17, 2012, 04:34:23 am
Another way around the compatibility of a non-efi tank to a uce would be to find out if an inline or in-tank pump could work with the ECU and injector. Then you could use any tank that fit on the bike.


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Reply #49 on: November 17, 2012, 05:57:34 am
Another pump would be feasible, but I don't see how it would be any easier to install.
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Reply #50 on: November 17, 2012, 08:41:44 pm
Getting back to the original post, i have been looking at these pictures a lot and what strikes me as most significant is the frame. It is a classic and simple twin downtube/loop frame. And it would seem to me that this frame may be the basic frame for all R.E.s for the future, even the twin if it ever happens. If R.E. can meet the quality challenges and get the details right i think this bike may be their game changer.
  As someone mentioned earlier, the bike has the look of Italian retro stuff more than English bikes of old. I have to wonder if Mc deeb had any influence here. Just thinking out loud.
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Reply #51 on: November 17, 2012, 10:14:28 pm
Yup. The CB1100 is a pretty hot looking machine.

http://www.motorstown.com/images/honda-cb1100-06.jpg

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Reply #52 on: November 18, 2012, 01:34:40 am
Yup. The CB1100 is a pretty hot looking machine.

http://www.motorstown.com/images/honda-cb1100-06.jpg
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Reply #53 on: November 18, 2012, 01:57:27 am
That is a nice bike...Honda's are great machines....
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Reply #54 on: November 18, 2012, 02:43:17 am
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Yup. The CB1100 is a pretty hot looking machine.

Can't argue that! Unfortunately, a total lack of character!
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Reply #55 on: November 18, 2012, 04:32:16 pm
I am very interested in the new RE cafe bike. I love the 60's RE Continental GT and it is interesting that the period claim was for 27hp from a 250cc single. Granted the bike didn't need to meet emission standards but you would think RE could get a bit more hp from a modern 500cc engine. I didn't buy a RE single for speed but the cafe bike will be a bit more interesting with a performance boost along with it's sporty appearance.
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Reply #56 on: November 18, 2012, 05:57:02 pm
The Cafe Racer (Crusader GT) is a 535 with a bit warmer cams and a top speed in the 95mph range. Still won't do the ton.
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Reply #57 on: November 18, 2012, 06:23:16 pm
It's all very interesting.
I'm just waiting and watching until we can see it perform on the road.
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Reply #58 on: November 18, 2012, 07:20:24 pm
The Cafe Racer (Crusader GT) is a 535 with a bit warmer cams and a top speed in the 95mph range. Still won't do the ton.
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Removal of 40 lb of weight is equivalent to less than 2 hp. The extra 35 cc given another 1.5-2 hp. Thats less than a 4 hp gain. They better have hot cams and a flat/domed piston, cos that aint doing 95 mph.


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Reply #59 on: November 20, 2012, 07:47:32 pm
Removal of 40 lb of weight is equivalent to less than 2 hp. The extra 35 cc given another 1.5-2 hp. Thats less than a 4 hp gain. They better have hot cams and a flat/domed piston, cos that aint doing 95 mph.

good point....  I've argued against the 535 upgrade as being not worth the work or ca$h layout. It's only like a 15% increase...  is it worth it? My stance has always been that by fine and super tuning your timing and carb you can do far better than a 15% increase.....
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