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motorat

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on: August 24, 2012, 04:05:26 pm
so i was going to put in the 19t this weekend and realized i do not have a gasket.
i remember someone saying that they used permatex black and it worked good.
is this the stuff
http://www.permatex.com/products/automotive/automotive_gasketing/gasket_makers/auto_Permatex_Ultra_Black_Maximum_Oil_Resistance_RTV_Silicone_Gasket_Maker.htm
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Reply #1 on: August 24, 2012, 04:41:12 pm
I've been working in the marine industry for more than 25 years as an engineer, and I have used permatex on many occasions with good results. I haven't tried the ultra black, but as long as the surfaces are clean, and you don't applt too heavy of a bead along the sealing edges, I thing it will be OK. However, NEVER use the permatex hardening type gasket maker, as it is a real B%$ch to remove from the joint faces.
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Reply #2 on: August 24, 2012, 05:12:01 pm
That's the stuff that was mentioned, use as per instructions.  I haven't used it yet but I have some in my garage for when I'm finished fixing the family cars and I can get back to my bike :) 

Also mentioned was the gray motorcycle specific stuff. 
http://www.permatex.com/products/motorcycle/motorcycle_gasketing/motorcycle_gasket_makers/motorcycle_MotoSeal_1_Ultimate_Gasket_Maker_Grey.htm
Not as readily available in auto stores.  A little more convenient, no 2 hour wait before final torque.

Scott
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Reply #3 on: August 24, 2012, 05:30:32 pm
Hi y'all, don,t block the oilways with that stuff!

cheers shappers.


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Reply #4 on: August 24, 2012, 05:38:54 pm
This video is great:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzGQxtirfrE&feature=relmfu
Right around 5:35 is the cleanest, most minimal removal and re-application of RTV I've ever seen to some engine parts.  Way better than just sqirting a sloppy bead right out of the tube like it's a can of Redi-Whip ;)

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Reply #5 on: August 24, 2012, 10:57:11 pm
Motorat:
YOu should heed shappers advice.

Above the oil filter there is a small hole in both the RH side case cover and the engine crankcase.
This hole transfers the oil from the filter cavity into the engine to feed the hydraulic valve lifters and the rocker arms/valves so it must stay open after the side case is reinstalled.
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Reply #6 on: August 24, 2012, 10:59:56 pm
thanks...
i think i will order and wait for a gasket.
if there is a way to mess it up i usually find a way to do it.
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Reply #7 on: August 24, 2012, 11:14:37 pm
You can also just do what the guy in the video does: apply a tiny amount to the outside edge of the sealing surface.  This should keep it from squishing into the oil galley.

But the gasket is a no-brainer.

Scott


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Reply #8 on: August 24, 2012, 11:40:23 pm
I ordered the 10,000 mile kit from Nfield gear and did not get a gasket.  It is on back order.  It will show up eventually. In another thread I will go into more detail, but after three failed attempts at making a gasket out of silicone I went to auto parts place and bought a sheet of rubberized gasket material.  I the put the sheet over the case and pressed the bolts through the case onto the surface to mark them.  From here I punched the holes and used the screws to hold the sheet to the case.  Now I take a socket, any socket, and removed one bolt at a time and rolled the socket onto the sheet to make the impression of the case on it.  From here I cut out the gasket and punched the rest of the holes.  I then greased the gasket and put the case on.  Voila!! no leaks.  Give it a try.

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Reply #9 on: August 24, 2012, 11:59:05 pm
that is an excellent idea and probubly 1/3 the cost of a geniune RE gasket.

thanks
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Reply #10 on: August 25, 2012, 12:23:17 am
Ragmas, that is AWESOME!  And way too much work for this cowboy ;)


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Reply #11 on: August 25, 2012, 12:52:20 am
surprisingly easy.  Give it a shot if you are bored.
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