Author Topic: Day 1 Air-box Elimination -Or- How I regained my bike's toolbox  (Read 6603 times)

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Reply #15 on: August 20, 2011, 02:51:57 pm
I'd do that but I need to learn to weld first :(  Actually, I'm looking at taking a class with a friend soon at the local community college.

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Reply #16 on: September 13, 2011, 05:10:49 am
O.K. I know it's been a while since I have posted anything in this about progress etc, but between work and having to take an instructors course for my job, I've been pretty busy.

I decided to start things off first by running through a tank of gas or two to see where my AVG MPG was with the stock intake setup.  So with the stop and go, around town, back and forth to work  riding I have been doing, I'm averaging 63.7mpg on my bike right now and that's with the occasional gettin' on it to avoid people on the road whose hobby it is to try and kill motorcyclists.   I drive a minimum of 20 miles each day which is 10 miles out to the training site I work at and ten miles back.   So in and around town it's 63.7mpg. 

The weekend of the 23rd I am attending a camp out/rally for RE owners here in MO.  The place is an hour  to an hour and a half away from where I reside.  I'll top off and record the mileage before I get underway and then see where I'm at either during the rally or when I get home from it.

The next step will be to pull the stock air cleaner set up and place the cone filter directly on the intake with no tube extension and then begin recording data from there, and hen finally with a 180 degree elbow fitting modified, if necessary, to the length of the stock intake hose and gather data following that. 

Following the elbow test it is my goal to try and find at what length of intake hose does the incoming air become stable enough to not interfere with the sensors and reduce efficiency.

Soooo... more to follow guys!

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Reply #17 on: September 13, 2011, 07:05:46 pm
Very thorough!  You have more patience than I do.

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Copied. Thanks for the idea!
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Okay so this looks like a neat entry level project, a way to create another secure storage space on the bike without adding hard saddle bags. Also if done right, it seems like it would create a better air flow.

Historically if I have a motorcycle I don't drive my truck unless I'm going to home depot or carrying a dead deer out of the woods. I ride rain or shine.

The stupid new guy question. If I'm out riding through the middle of a thunderstorm, is the air filter going to suck up a quart of water and dump it into the middle of my engine?
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Okay so this looks like a neat entry level project, a way to create another secure storage space on the bike without adding hard saddle bags. Also if done right, it seems like it would create a better air flow.

Historically if I have a motorcycle I don't drive my truck unless I'm going to home depot or carrying a dead deer out of the woods. I ride rain or shine.

The stupid new guy question. If I'm out riding through the middle of a thunderstorm, is the air filter going to suck up a quart of water and dump it into the middle of my engine?


2 part answer:

1. Yes, cheap. 3" PVC and a piece of rubber "j" tube. A 1/4" bolt, a couple of cheap 10 dollar filters for easy end caps. Spray paint. Lot's of ways to make it work...

2. I'm currently on the look out for an old-school horn or air cover to give a little bit of protection. I also used the J-tube to keep the air intake on the far side from the actual throttle body. It it more exposed then the stock? Yes. Much more.....? errrrrrr

I'll argue that the air box/tube is pretty deep. There's the reverse "j" tube. The engine is "bullet" tough. Even on the stock, water can get in on a heavy rain. etc.

So, in the end it's a fair risk.

For me I like the look, I wanted my box back, and I think we'll be ok with the rain.

If I discover more I'll post!

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I'm not in a place to go look at my bike right now, but I'm thinking maybe a mod to move the filter to the oval tool box. that way I still have a cover on the filter, and the bigger box can be used as storage. Just batting around ideas.
 
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I looked at that also... but opted for the easier "ditch it" path.

I'll admit, I formed an instant dislike of the small oval tool box. It was a bitch to open, I bruised a knuckle. Hard feelings formed. Arguments were had. The rest was history.:)

If you go that route do better then I, pictures. The oval box is in my "stuff pulled box." and ready for a good rehab!
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ace.cafe hooked me up with one if his legendary ace air canisters.
he ships them out with a rain guard on it to prevent water from getting sucked into the filter. i think it was roughly $70 and worth every penny.
Tom really knows what he is doing and made a great product. check it out if you want. just do a search for the ace air canister.

http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,15536.msg167498.html#msg167498
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This forum is dangerous. Thus far it's given me the idea to make soft saddle bags out of military surplus bags (I used gas mask carriers), I followed that with a fork bag made from 80 year old leather Mosin Nagant ammo pouches. Currently I'm working on a pedestrian slicer made from an ammo can, with a no drill mount system, I've got the fin cut out and I primered it yesterday. today is sand down and paint. Maybe work the mounts some. B. Sheets has sent me an oval tool box cover for the side arm holster project. Now I'm looking at moving the air intake, and modifying the tool box even more.

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This forum is dangerous.

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ace.cafe hooked me up with one if his legendary ace air canisters.
he ships them out with a rain guard on it to prevent water from getting sucked into the filter. i think it was roughly $70 and worth every penny.
Tom really knows what he is doing and made a great product. check it out if you want. just do a search for the ace air canister.

http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,15536.msg167498.html#msg167498

The price was a bit higher than that. And, as you found out, it took a bit of tweaking effort to get it on there just right.
But it will fit on a UCE, with a certain amount of effort, and it does look good and work well.
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Altogether I spent maybe 30. Most of that was trial and error.

I love the Ace can. It's still on my "list". What's the going rate these days?
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Altogether I spent maybe 30. Most of that was trial and error.

I love the Ace can. It's still on my "list". What's the going rate these days?

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