I looked into Duro and Mitas tires in the U.S.. No go as they are not sold in this country
Does the squareness of the tire lend itself to stability at speed? Some folks here report squirrely handling at higher speeds while I feel my RE's fairly steady at 65+.I'm wondering if the old school Avon square style are more stable than say, round Dunlops.
If you mean the high speed issues with some (but not all) C5's I am pretty sure that was tracked down to the nylon bush the C5 uses in the swing arm. If you have that issue the fix is to replace the nylon bush with a brass one, you can buy adapter kits.
All said, the C5 is a great bike....unique styling and fun handling!
I've seen some people are using what looks like a 3.50 tire on the bullet classics and it seems to be a rear tire tread. I like the look. Anyone have experience with this?
Sorry, I didn't specify which bike I've got. I have the G5 which has the 19" wheels front and rear. I figured out the tires I'm talking about are the K70 which seem to have the same tread pattern front and rear. Looks like there's plenty of room under the front fender for a 3.50 tire.
I second Br. GlenF. Especially when there seems to be a K70 3.25-19 available either in the US as well as Europe. There are some people in the forum who did that change, though, with good results on the iron barrel. Theoretically using a 3.50 on the front should impair handling and hinder fast cornering.
I have put about 200 miles on my K70 3.25x19 and and 3.50x19 and love 'em. Much more precise steering, quicker handling, and better stability than the Avons They have it all, even done a minimal amount of dirt work in which they were very nice.
Thank´s for the link, GlenF. Very helpfull and a good read!Finally a mechanic sucesfully managed to get the AM26s on my whels without doing anything wrong. Amazingly three attempts were necessary: first time sidestroke, second time air loss. I noticed that climbing up the Grossglockner! http://www.grossglockner.at/en/Now there on, and are a major dissapointment. To my surprise I´ve got a high-speed wobble now! Indeed with the ancient stock profile not very swift leastwise rock steady straight, Precious now tends to wobble when sidewinds hit or the surface get´s uneven. She even takes this wobble along when getting inclined! I suspect I found a reason, if not the reason for the C5´s lack of stability over 100 km/h. I may repeat, since the BT45 is available there is really no reason to take another tire for the C5.Otherwise these modern AVONs are quite well, adhesion seem to be more than enough and due to the round profile of the rear tire she feels better when heavily inclined. That´s the only outstanding advantage over the stocks, though.The wobble gets much worse when the front´tire´s pressure is increased. I tested 1,3 bar to 2,0 bar in the front and it gets better with less air. I even tried 1,0 bar and the straight running ability gains, but the cornering stability suffers.At the end I cannot recommend the Avon AM26, for I don´t see a desirable improvement. I´m not sure if I like to keep them. RegardsMaturin
I know people have found very low tire pressures to work for them on their C5's, but on my iron barrel, anything much less than 26-28 psi makes my bike feel unstable. I like 28-30psi front - not sure what that translates to in bars. In any case, I can take my hands off the handlebars at 65mph and the bike is rock steady. I personally don't have a problem with the stock Speedmaster/Safety Mileage combo other than they are more expensive than K70's or similar options.
It´s even more stunning, as the mule was going rock steady straight on with the worn down AVONs AM6/7, and felt pretty transformed after the tire change wobbling with brand new AM26ers!As I said before the effect can be reduced by lowering tire presure on the front. Actually I blame the front for the wobble, as tire pressure on the rear has no effect on it and otherwise all instability seems to come from the front.
I just ordered the k70 3.50 x 19 front and rear for my G5. I like the look of the bigger tire on the front and the convenience of running the same tire all around. I figure if I don't like it I can swap the front for the stock 3.25 and save the 3.50 as a spare for when the rear wears out.
I've had the K70s on my G5 for about 1000 miles now and have started to push them a bit. They are everything I could've asked for in a tire. They are very neutral and precise steering. They stick very well. They handle well in the dirt. They don't push the front end like the Avons did. Frankly, I think the Avons that come on the G5 are garbage.I don't notice the rain grooves, but my front tire pressure is a bit lower (24 psi ) than Single's. They are my choice for a tire. they have given me confidence in the Bullet that I never had with the Avons. They may not last as long as some of the others, but my experience with some of the Cheng Shins and such would not cause me to buy them. They are too hard and and don't stick particularly well. Granted most of you guys don't appear to ride like I do, so it may not make a difference to you, but I prefer performance to long mileage. Ya know the old adage, How fast do you want to go? How much money do you have? Fortunately though, the K70's are a steal.Bare
I've had the K70s on my G5 for about 1000 miles now and have started to push them a bit. They are everything I could've asked for in a tire. They are very neutral and precise steering. They stick very well.
At the end I have to admit that the money spend an the AVON AM26ers was blown into the oven. They just didn´t make it straightforward in their own right, neither with 1,3 bar nor with 2,0. Finally I was fed up with swerving about and got myself a pair ofHeidenau K44 front 3.25 and K34 rear 3.50http://www.reifenwerk-heidenau.de/modules/reifenliste/view.php?point=2&rtyp=9wich seem to have cured most of my problems with the rubber sector. Today I could do a test ride of some 60kms in late autumn temperatures ( 5-10°C). I´m quite impressed, the stability problems above 80 km/h I encountered with the AM26 were just blown off, the Heidenaus run dead straight up to 120 kms. However, the handling is more on the stubborn side now, but that´s the way I like it and the Bullet, beeing an Enfield, is still very nimble compared with other bikes of it´s size. Steering precision is good, there is a slight tendency to understeer but maybe it´s owed to the rubber nipples that are not yet worn. I can´t say much about the behavoir beeing heavily cantered or very hot, as the road conditions are very treacherous these days and I had to be extremly carefull. I´ll keep you posted!5 kms before I reached home I passed a car accident on the Autobahn and the driver really managed to set the cage on the roof. I hope noone is seriously injured, but it was an excellent reminder what all is about: to make it home alive. Best regardsMaturin
Finally I was fed up with swerving about and got myself a pair ofHeidenau K44 front 3.25 and K34 rear 3.50http://www.reifenwerk-heidenau.de/modules/reifenliste/view.php?point=2&rtyp=9wich seem to have cured most of my problems with the rubber sector. Today I could do a test ride of some 60kms in late autumn temperatures ( 5-10°C). I´m quite impressed, the stability problems above 80 km/h I encountered with the AM26 were just blown off, the Heidenaus run dead straight up to 120 kms.
The 3.25 K70 definitely doesn't push like the Avons. It tracks exremely well.Bare
My initial impression of the K70s is quite good, as well. Certainly not inferior on pavement to the AM26s I was running on my previous bike. And better for mixed conditions. I rode alongside a traffic jam in the dirt and broken concrete yesterday without the slightest insecurity.
Those new style muzzleloaders should just be called "Cheaters." They are ridiculous.Give me a good ol' flintlock any day.Bare
But I guess I should put more faith in the pro’s, huh?
Skepticism is a good thing. Why not take the wheel off and bring that to them, get the tire changed, and then re-install the wheel yourself?
With just a little practice you can have the back wheel off in less than 10 minutes...
I think what I'm hearing is just the rather aggressive tread capturing the wind and making the noise. Am I right?
Is a Dunlop K70 is the same front and rear tire? It does not matter if it is a 3.25 or a 3.5... there is no front or rear specific tire, correct? I have an AVL... 19" front and rear.Has anyone run a K81 that our host sells? They are wider. 4.10 for front and rear.
Agent, how do you like the 3.5 up front? Do you feel the steering is any more sluggish than if you had a 3.25 like Bare ran on his? I know the 3.25/3.5 combo works great, but I do like the look of that 3.5 up front.Curious about these K81s.
Plus with the dirt-tracker look the 3.5 carries the aesthetics.
But can anyone in the real world tell me how well they stick? Can you scrape them down the the end of the wanker stripes?Bare
Having my K70s (3.50) put on tomorrow. It does not matter which way they go, correct? There is no directional arrow.
Here's some people talking about the 712s:http://www.dotheton.com/forumindex.php?topic=47741.msg528759#msg528759
I've done searches and let's just say I'd rather ask directly here.K70 3.5/19 front and back, 2007 AVL. It looks like 24/28 has been tossed around, front/rear. Think this is a good place to start?
Dam that looks good!!! I hadn't realized the way the front fender mounted without the long stays on the AVL.... - Mike
Has anyone tried the Duro HF308 tires? The local Brit bike shop has them for about $60. Compared to the K70s for about $140. I'm looking for something that will work around town but also will work on gravel.I'm getting these installed this week. They are not expensive, and I'm hoping that doesn't translate into a cheap tire. Duro are Taiwanese, these made in Georgia. Duro has been done a lot, so I've read, to make tires with intent on gaining inroads into specialty markets outside of the simple automobile market. At the leadt, ive read no bad reviews online. I was looking at the dunlops too, but they don't have a straight up 4" tire, and I was a little worried about swing arm clearance, though it might be fine. The front fender on my 2009 AVL I'm changing to the Classic type with the valenced forks. They won't accommodate a 4" tire, but our local dealer has one bike there where they've modified it for just that reason. Looks sharp and gives the bike a more rugged look with big blackwalls. I'll let you know how the tires do.
Hey Bare-Bike-Bandit only shows the 90/90-19 size as a tubeless front tire. Did you just mount one with a tube?
Bike-Bandit only shows the 90/90-19 size as a tubeless front tire. Did you just mount one with a tube?
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