Author Topic: Halcyon mirrors, US distributor? (Read 14374 times)

Ducati Scotty · **on:** April 28, 2011, 04:47:35 am

I'm looking at these:
http://classicpartsltd.com/classic-motorcycle-products/classic-motorcycle-mirrors/830-halcyon-bar-end-mirror.html
http://classicpartsltd.com/classic-motorcycle-products/classic-motorcycle-mirrors/835-halcyon-bar-end-mirror.html

Anyone know a place in the States that carries them? They're a bit pricey but look like nice quality. I think a single round chrome mirror on the C5 would look really sweet.

Scott

newtothescene · **Reply #1 on:** April 28, 2011, 03:55:12 pm

I love that look as well, I just ordered the bar end mirror in chrome from nfieldgear and will be installing them this weekend. I went with these as they are hinged which will make it easier for storage along side my wife's cruiser. Word on this forum is that they are easily installed and work great.As for the Halcyon, I am unsure of a US supplier, but was looking at almost the identical mirror on the 2010 Triumph Thruxton, you may want to contact a local Triumph dealer for the specs to see if it may work. Good Luck. Looking forward to posted pics.

Ducati Scotty · **Reply #2 on:** April 28, 2011, 04:14:37 pm

Ah, good idea! We've got a Triumph dealer and a vintage Brit bike shop in town. I should check those.

That's part of the reason I'm thinking of going for the single round mirror, dual Napoleons makes for a big wingspan when I park at work.

Scott

olhogrider · **Reply #3 on:** May 01, 2011, 03:30:51 am

I put the stems vertical and rotated the mirrors so the longer/wider portion was inboard. I do like the look off the round ones but I don't think they will go on the stock handlebar.

Ducati Scotty · **Reply #4 on:** May 01, 2011, 03:49:05 am

I like the wider end to the outside, but the idea is to get a smaller round mirror. I think it just looks better. And anything will work with the stock bars. You just have to get "cutsom".

Scott

Sub · **Reply #5 on:** May 02, 2011, 08:18:40 pm

Scotty, you probably know this, but for others reading.. Keep in mind that the ends of our bars have a welded-in threaded metal stopper, so unless those inserts are removable, you'll be doing some modding. I've had two sets on my bike and both times had to grind protruding bits with a dremel before being able to use a bolt to hold the mirror in place from the end.

You will also likely be left with a 1/8" space between the mirror and the end of the grip. I used a small section of black rubber tubing I had lying around - about garden hose size in diameter, and it looks great.

About the napoleon type mirrors on nfield.. AVOID them, they have horrible optics and on top of that vibrate like crazy. Actually, avoid almost everything on nfield.

I was lucky to find a pair of real Napoleons (now a defunct company apparently) and they are great.

Its been my experience btw that almost every mod I've done to my bike required some sort of modding, especially things from nfield gear which state they're designed for the c5.

Post pics later

Ducati Scotty · **Reply #6 on:** May 02, 2011, 08:43:24 pm

Thanks, and yes I know about the threaded end. I currently have Napoleons that I bolted right up. I tried them without the end weights but vibrations was excessive for both comfort and vision. I them bolted them on right over the end weights and they're great. I plan to do the same with this mirror and if I have to cut a bit of it off to do so, so be it. If I have to use some spacers to fill a small gap, so be it.

Thanks,
Scott

jjoe256 · **Reply #7 on:** May 03, 2011, 02:54:03 am

About the napoleon type mirrors on nfield.. AVOID them, they have horrible optics and on top of that vibrate like crazy. Actually, avoid almost everything on nfield. Smiley I was lucky to find a pair of real Napoleons (now a defunct company apparently) and they are great

I disagree. I bolted Napoleans on my G-5 outboard the weights. The optics are great, a larger field than the round ones I tried, no vibration, and I put small cat's eyes in the corners for better lateral vision. They are still available. There was an import problem for a short time. Just make sure the bolts are snug.

Sub · **Reply #8 on:** May 03, 2011, 03:04:56 am

Joe, not all napoleons, the ones on nfield.

barenekd · **Reply #9 on:** May 03, 2011, 10:04:44 pm

British Customs has Napoleon bar end mirrors listed for $31.95, the cheapest I've seen them.
I have a pair on my Bullet and they work magnificently very little or no vibration at any speed, they are always usable and have a pretty wide viewing area. Mine are mounted outside the bar end weights where they bolt right on. Just remove the rubber bushings and the stubs fit the hole in the bar end beautifully, like they are made for each other. The stock bolt will work, but I felt they were a bit short and replaced them with longer bolts.
The mirrors are listed under the Scrambler category for one, I don't know whether or not they are listed under any other heading.
I have done business with these guys and they are great to work with. But they are about 40 miles from me and I don't get there often.

British Customs LLC
18426 South Broadway
Gardena, California 90248

Call Us Toll Free: (877) 999-BRIT
International: (310) 225-2570
Fax: (310) 225-2580

Hours: Monday-Friday 8:00am to 5:00pm PST

Bare

jjoe256 · **Reply #10 on:** May 03, 2011, 10:32:14 pm

My bad. Napolians are Napolians to me.

Ducati Scotty · **Reply #11 on:** May 03, 2011, 10:56:38 pm

I already have Napoleons, the real ones. They rock. This is a vanity purchase. I just want the single, small, shiny precious

Scott

The_Rigger · **Reply #12 on:** May 18, 2012, 05:47:07 pm

The postman just delivered my Halcyon #835 "gunfighter" mirrors today... This afternoon's project will be modding them to fit outboard of the bar weights on Fiona. (I saw the milled weights in another thread, but don't have the milling machine to do that sort of work.)

ObSubject line: No US distributor that I could find. I ordered directly from Halcyon in the UK.

Hobbydad · **Reply #13 on:** May 18, 2012, 06:03:52 pm

I also ordered mine directly, still haven't mounted them yet. I talked to a millwright at work, and showed him the pics of those machined bar ends. He thinks he can whip me up a pair, just haven't taken the time to hand over all the parts. If not I'll probably buy a new set of bars and just install them on that. One of the products we produce at work is a visco-elastomer (sound dampening metallic glue, for the auto industry), I was thinking of filling the new bars with it to dampen vibrations and give them some weight. Just a thought.

Ducati Scotty · **Reply #14 on:** May 18, 2012, 06:13:28 pm

HobbyDad,

Take off the switch clusters and tape up the locating holes before you try that, or it will fill up the switches. And you can just use silicon caulk for that if you like. Cheap and it comes in a tube designed to squirt into things..

Scott

The_Rigger · **Reply #15 on:** May 19, 2012, 12:05:20 am

Well, they're on...

I wound up boring out the Halcyon bar-end bracket to pass a larger M8 bolt (which is what RE uses to attach the bar weights), then overbored the outer face of it out enough so that the head of the M8 weight cap screw fit down about halfway to flush in the end of the bracket cap...
I bought a pair of M8x60 socket head cap screws to replace the OEM bar weight bolts. The new cap screws are long enough to pass through the mirror brackets and the weights, and thread into the bars. Next, I took the first section of the Halcyon bar-end mounting wedges (the one with the stepped area that fits into the bar-end mounting bracket) and cut it flush with the widest diameter. This creates a flat, round face to friction-fit against the outer face of the bar weight. (I'll have to shoot some photos of this, as I suspect this description ain't makin' no sense.) Finally, I assembled the new, longer 60mm M8 cap screw through the Halcyon bar-end bracket, through the aluminum thingummy from the wedges, and through the bar weight, adding a 2mm thick x 18mm dia. rubber washer between the weight and the mirror bracket stuff for added friction and grabbiosity. All of this then threads into the handlebar end, in the existing weight-mount bracket.

Net result: Perfect. While I will stipulate the #835 mirrors are very small, they hardly vibrate at all, plus the mass of the mirror assembly seems to have added to the bar weight mass, providing additional anti-vibration damping. And the bike just looks *mean* with 3" bar-end mirrors... I call it a win. And it only took me about an hour, once I had it all sussed & the fasteners acquired.

Stay tuned for photos, as I know this post may well be useless without any.

Ducati Scotty · **Reply #16 on:** May 19, 2012, 12:17:22 am

Waiting on the photos. I'm thinking of getting rid of my Napoleons and just mounting one of these with some heavier par end weights to slim down the look. And yes, any decently made bar end mirror with some weight does A LOT to mitigate vibes.

Scott

Hobbydad · **Reply #17 on:** May 19, 2012, 01:26:29 am

I was expecting the inserts for these mirrors to be stainless, not aluminum, based on the price and the "full ss construction". If the inserts where stainless I'd have no reservations about buying the new bars. I think the mirrors heavy construction, along with a heavy insert, would be pretty close to what's on the C5 now.

The_Rigger · **Reply #18 on:** May 19, 2012, 10:07:20 pm

First stab at uploading photos. Hopefully this works... I may eventually get the larger replacement Halcyon mirrors, but for now I'm really loving these... They're *SO* much better than the OEM lollypop mirrors, that either were constantly vibrating to the point of uselessness or giving me a commanding view of my own elbows.

Plus these just look *fierce*.

The_Rigger · **Reply #19 on:** May 19, 2012, 10:07:58 pm

Two more photos:

#1: The aluminum bar-end fitting that normally comes with the Halcyon mirror.

#2: My bar-end fitting cut down, for friction-fitting the bar end mirror to the bar weight.

The_Rigger · **Reply #20 on:** May 20, 2012, 03:20:41 am

Quote from: Hobbydad on May 19, 2012, 01:26:29 am

I think the mirrors heavy construction, along with a heavy insert, would be pretty close to what's on the C5 now.

No; I don't think so. I think it'd be about half of the OEM bar weight, actually. The #835 mirror assembly is actually fairly lightweight.

Ducati Scotty · **Reply #21 on:** May 20, 2012, 03:53:12 am

But they're on the very end of the bar. Leverage, the farther out the weight is the more it does. If you doubt this temporarily bolt them to the stock perches and go for a ride. You'll be amazed at the difference.

Scott

The_Rigger · **Reply #22 on:** May 20, 2012, 04:33:18 am

Didn't you try running your Napoleons without bar weights, way up there at the top of the thread? I thought you wrote that it was pretty buzzy... Or am I thinking of something (or someone?) else?

Ducati Scotty · **Reply #23 on:** May 21, 2012, 04:08:10 am

That's correct, too buzzy with just the mirrors. I run the mirrors and weights now.

Scott

barenekd · **Reply #24 on:** May 21, 2012, 01:15:41 pm

Jack ran his without the weights. They had been installed by the dealer when he bought the bike. The vibration was terrible. He has since reinstalled the weights. The change was highly welcome.

Bare

dick_deck · **Reply #25 on:** May 22, 2012, 09:31:55 pm

This style of mirror is what drew me to the Triumph Thruxton, and I almost got one. In the end the RE C5 was just so pretty I had to get one!

Bookmarked this thread for future reference when I get my Halcyon 830's.

The_Rigger · **Reply #26 on:** May 23, 2012, 06:17:34 am

Quote from: Ducati Scotty on May 21, 2012, 04:08:10 am

That's correct, too buzzy with just the mirrors. I run the mirrors and weights now.

Okay, maybe I'm not understanding what HobbyDad means by "heavyweight insert," then. It would have to be *plenty* heavy to dampen the bar buzz without the OEM weights, I think.